Since you are spending resources on events

[captainpicard]

Would it be possible to spend some resources on bringing the games graphics into the current era?

Nothing in this game casts shadows except the player models. When you play this, then login to say, Age of Conan, 2 things are instantly apparent.

1. Age of Conan has awesome graphics. Everything casts shadows, godrays are there, you name it, its got all the perks you would expect from a modern graphics engine.
2. Age of Conan's world seems proportionally wrong after playing FF14. The buildings and so on seem too small, the world seems last "vast" in the visual sense than FF14.

When you play FF14, 2 things are instantly apparent.

1. FF14 has awesome graphics. The character models are top notch, best in show. The textures and graphics are generally superior to other MMOs. There is a total lack of effects like shadows, godrays, and other modern graphical 'perks' which renders all this beauty fairly lifeless and static.
2. FF14 world seems proportionally right, i.e. everything feels appropriately sized compared to many other MMOs I have played.

In short, although my preference would be for the dev's to stop rolling out summer events, new crafting systems, and other stuff that isn't really fixing the core issues with the game, if they are going to continue to put resources on these type of questionable value adds, could you please work on bringing the graphic effects into the current era?

Thx

[Antanias]

The team that does events are seperate from the ones working to fix this game. I believe this has been said more than once in previous threads.

[captainpicard]

And as I have said before, if you have any understanding of at all of how Corporate Enterprise project management works, then you realize that resources are finite. Period. Projects have a defined scope. Estimated cost, and so forth. That said, every "resource" that is working on these events, is a resource that is not working on fixing the game. So the old "separate team doing x" is just a drain on finite resources that could be doing y.

Let's not derail this thread with SE and Yoshi P fanboyism, can do no wrong, everything is okay, I drank the kool-aid nonsense please.

Its an honest question I pose.

[Xenor]

And as I have said before, if you have any understanding of at all of how Corporate Enterprise project management works, then you realize that resources are finite. Period. Projects have a defined scope. Estimated cost, and so forth. That said, every "resource" that is working on these events, is a resource that is not working on fixing the game. So the old "separate team doing x" is just a drain on finite resources that could be doing y.

Let's not derail this thread with SE and Yoshi P fanboyism, can do no wrong, everything is okay, I drank the kool-aid nonsense please.

Its an honest question I pose.

I think it's you who lacks understanding of how software projects are managed. Adding more staff to the problem isn't always the right solution. It can actually end up slowing things down by the time staff are taken off the project to train up the new staff and get them started. Whether it's worth it depends on how far away the deadline is.

[captainpicard]

I think it's you who lacks understanding of how software projects are managed. Adding more staff to the problem isn't always the right solution. It can actually end up slowing things down by the time staff are taken off the project to train up the new staff and get them started. Whether it's worth it depends on how far away the deadline is.

Since its what I do for a living, I have a fair understanding of it. Although I agree adding resources isn't ALWAYS the right solution, in this case, it definitely would have been the appropriate solution, starting 1 year ago. Had they added resources then to work on the core issues, they would be ramping up well on the code base at this point and be able to start delivering fixes much more rapidly.

And since you went there


I direct you to the June 22, 2011 shareholder notes

http://www.square-enix.com/eng/news/...0110622_01.pdf

Q4. Please explain how it was possible for FFXIV to be released even though user tests saw various needed points for improvement in the game, which resulted in your inability to begin billing for the service. Also, please explain when billing may begin for the game.

A4. To make an online game successful, game ideas, the technology to realize those ideas, and large-scale project organization management skills are necessary. Among these, project organization management skills were problematic. Furthermore, the function of internal quality review was also weak. In addition to the reorganization of our structure to solve these issues, we are continuing service operation while simultaneously improving the game's content. There has been much improvement already, and thus we are now trying to determine the conditions necessary for billing.

[Technolust]

And as I have said before, if you have any understanding of at all of how Corporate Enterprise project management works, then you realize that resources are finite. Period. Projects have a defined scope. Estimated cost, and so forth. That said, every "resource" that is working on these events, is a resource that is not working on fixing the game. So the old "separate team doing x" is just a drain on finite resources that could be doing y.

Let's not derail this thread with SE and Yoshi P fanboyism, can do no wrong, everything is okay, I drank the kool-aid nonsense please.

Its an honest question I pose.

How would you know what I do for a living? I love how people use the "If you have any understanding of how such & such work," to try and prove that said person is right, and others are wrong. You ask people not to derail your thread, but go as far as saying that everyone that disagrees with you is a SE and Yoshi P fanboyism.

I'm not a fanboy, and what the hell is the point of saying you drank the kool-aid? Are you implying that your hip with netspeak, or are you just trying to emphasize yet again that since you know more then the rest of the world that we should just defer to you on everything?

You post, expect others to post different beliefs or ideas. Don't get bent out of shape if we don't agree with you. I personally think the game graphics are current to the area. I don't mind if they spend time on doing events, I don't do them but many people I know do.

[captainpicard]

How would you know what I do for a living? I love how people use the "If you have any understanding of how such & such work," to try and prove that said person is right, and others are wrong. You ask people not to derail your thread, but go as far as saying that everyone that disagrees with you is a SE and Yoshi P fanboyism.

I'm not a fanboy, and what the hell is the point of saying you drank the kool-aid? Are you implying that your hip with netspeak, or are you just trying to emphasize yet again that since you know more then the rest of the world that we should just defer to you on everything?

You post, expect others to post different beliefs or ideas. Don't get bent out of shape if we don't agree with you. I personally think the game graphics are current to the area. I don't mind if they spend time on doing events, I don't do them but many people I know do.

I don't know what you do for a living. So what do you do? Are you an EPM?

The kool-aid comment is a reference to Jim Jones. Look him up on the Wikipedia. It has nothing to do with hip netspeak.

I am not bent out of shape at your disagreement, just trying to avoid the "SE can do no wrong" response that is so common here because the game speaks for itself. They did wrong. If they didn't, this sucker wouldn't still be free.

[Technolust]

I don't know what you do for a living. So what do you do? Are you an EPM?

The kool-aid comment is a reference to Jim Jones. Look him up on the Wikipedia. It has nothing to do with hip netspeak.

I am not bent out of shape at your disagreement, just trying to avoid the "SE can do no wrong" response that is so common here because the game speaks for itself. They did wrong. If they didn't, this sucker wouldn't still be free.

No I am not an EPM, I'm an EE with a heavy background in programming, but so what. What I'm saying is people who fling the "You don't know what your talking about because you have no experience in so-and-so field," only say it to belittle the people around them, and to make them feel better about themselves. It's a common psychological tactic to justify an arrogant approach to an argument. You don't want a discussion, all you are doing is accusing everyone else of being a fanboy if they don't agree with you.

I understand the kool-aid reference, I just don't understand why you would even bring it up. It's not relevant to your original OP, it's only relevant because you feel like you need to chastise everyone around you.

That's all.

[Dreadnought]

And as I have said before, if you have any understanding of at all of how Corporate Enterprise project management works, then you realize that resources are finite. Period. Projects have a defined scope. Estimated cost, and so forth. That said, every "resource" that is working on these events, is a resource that is not working on fixing the game. So the old "separate team doing x" is just a drain on finite resources that could be doing y.

Let's not derail this thread with SE and Yoshi P fanboyism, can do no wrong, everything is okay, I drank the kool-aid nonsense please.

Its an honest question I pose.

i have to agree with this. you do have a point. i myself have worked with large corporations and when things go wrong they pull from other teams, even if that means a foreman being a programmers go-for boy as long as that programmer is at his desk at all times (as a general point).

yeah the overall look of the game is sub-par to most other MMOs that are coming out but id imagine if this game stays around long enough then we will get our visual perks.
i for one believe visual perks are partly what sell a game so yeah id kinda say visual effects from character draw distance to god rays to magic/abilities is also one of the core issues.

[Felis]

Would it be possible to spend some resources on bringing the games graphics into the current era?

so you suggest to bring the event team, which know more about stories than graphics, in the graphic team to slow down the graphic team more?