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    What will we lose?

    It is normal leading up to an expansion that we start looking excitedly towards what we will gain in the game, all the new stuff that will become available to us, but after seeing how a certain really big MMO has handled expansions in the past, most notably its most recent one I just have to ask - what will be removed from the game with Heavensward?

    Will the Beast Tribe quests remain in place, so we can farm those mounts and minions?
    Will the story in Coil be considered over and done with, with the raids removed to keep the current T13 farmers feeling special for being able to clear it when no one else could?
    Will our achievements, particularly the ones building towards rewards like titles and minions, be reset or removed?
    Will Triple Triad be expanded, or left as it is today? It's sufficiently new that I don't think it will be removed yet.
    Will the (Augmented) Ironworks gear remain available? Will we be able to farm Poetics as an old currency to obtain it?
    What of the current Relic quests - and relics, for that matter? Will they remain for people to go back and farm?
    The old job-specific gear looks, ie. the i90 gear; will that still be farmable?

    Does anyone know with certainty, not just a gut feeling that "They would never remove that!" whether these things will stay or be removed? Anything else I might have missed?
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    I doubt SE would remove these features without warning the players. They will change its easier to complete these features, but I doubt a removal.
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    Well I sure hope we don't lose anything...save for grinds.

    I can't really see why we would.
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    Everything you have listed will not be removed, but either nerfed to ease completion or expanded upon so that players can continue to enjoy said content.
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    I've posed the question before if they will add new levels to achievements, like gathering X amount of times in L51-60 zones to take an obvious example but also killing 200.000 mobs and so on...

    If they reset the existing achievements then I am quitting. I've worked way too hard on those because in my mind levels and achievements are for ever, gear is for 3 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonleg View Post
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    What? I am so confused by your worry over this...
    I'm not certain why most of what you have mentioned here would ever be removed from the game especially things like Coil. Firstly, Is there some reason folks have this "I'm Special cuz I beat coil" complex? Why would they remove Coil for such a petty reason as that? Coil is a major major major! (cant stress that enough) part of 1.0&2.0's storyline. Even if it did become more of a side content it explains far tooo much of what happened to just be cast aside into the abyss.
    Why would achievement data ever be reset? Otherwise what's the point of an achievement?? If anything they'll add onto it. For example Gather X so many times in "insert zone or region name here". But I highly doubt they'd reset this.

    Now that being said, Ironworks gear and what not will remain viable for a short while Im sure. But nothing stays the same for ever. In fact, the pieces of gear will likely be moved to some other kind of content like we saw with the i90 sets, but I doubt it'd disappear entirely. It would not surprise me if Soldiery and poetic gear became drops in high level and expert dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    Why would they remove Coil for such a petty reason as that? Coil is a major major major! (cant stress that enough) part of 1.0&2.0's storyline. Even if it did become more of a side content it explains far tooo much of what happened to just be cast aside into the abyss.
    While I realize SE is not a certain snowstorm company *cough*, and different companies do things differently, the fact remains that the arguably largest MMO on the market decided that with the release of the most recent expansion, the previous expansion's max-level storyline got removed. Poof, gone it was. Nothing to explain to the new players that might get there one day WHY the different raids were there, just ... gone.

    And when you've seen that happen it's hard to not sit here and worry what THIS game might lose in the interest of streamlining or *shudder* reducing server load.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonleg View Post
    Concerns
    While FFXIV is a lot like WoW in many ways, and was constructed that way on purpose, this is where it's going to become obvious that we're NOT playing WoW any more. I think the biggest concern of yours, that storyline will be taken out, is easily addressed by the fact that they're keeping the completion of 2.x storyline a requirement to progress into 3.x. WoW, on the other hand, has taken a stance on storyline closer to "If you're here for it, you get to see it. If you get to it later, you'll have missed it" and they've been like that for a very very long time, not just this expansion.

    So I think it's pretty obvious that FFXIV will be taking a pretty different direction from WoW once we start getting into expansion content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonleg View Post
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    HAHAHHAHAHA! If thats what "said company" did, then they are serious morons. >_>;
    But in SE's years of MMO service in XIV and XI, I have never once seen them Remove storyline content, usually it was nerfed so Newcomers could quickly get through it and catch up. But never removed entirely.

    I highly doubt you have much to fear from SE on that regard.

    Sorry while I go chuckle about "said company" some more ... hahaha
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    hint... despite the fact that this game is amazing, not every will necessarily get Heavensward and they will still need content to do. Odds are no none of the current content will go away. Soldiery and Poetics will probably still exist for people without heavensward (at least for a bit in all likelihood)
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