[dev1032] Current Affinity System

[Griever]

Dude. Give me a good reason why I should level lancer to 50 when all of its best abilities are 1-20. You will have not much room for you abilities because apparently you can fit as many as you need at 50.

It also takes away the class unuiqness in which this game allows you to use lancer weapon skills and archer weapon skills and so on and so forth on every class. That's boring and not fun I am given no intensive to take any class to 50 let alone use Wide Valley on my Pugilist...

Now why would I want to take Archer to 40+ to use Wide Valley II on my Pugilist...

A good reason to rank lancer past 20....um..
1 - Skewer II (Incapacitation)
2 - Ferocity II(Dmg boost)
3 - For tanks, maybe collusion/diversion
4 - Twisting Vice(Incapacitation / Wipe enemy TP)
5 - Invigorate II(TP+)
6 - Comrade in Arms II

If those are not enough reasons..I don't know what you're looking for..

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[Evovenom]

So I'm a "Hardcore Player" and I want to be the best of the best. Let us put the XI system to use.

1. Level Ninja to 37 for Utsusemi 2 then TRASH it.
2. Level Red Mage to 41 for Convert and Refresh then TRASH it.
3. Level Samurai to 45 for all those abilities then TRASH it.
4. Level Warrior to 45 for Warcry, Provoke, etc. then TRASH it.

Now I have the most over powered melee class in the game (at the moment) combined with every single ability that makes every other class unique, thus making all other classes pointless to level up any further. Now I can heal myself for 400-600HP along with Raise, and never miss (Zanshin) while spamming weapon skills as much as my stamina will let me; combined with every single class attack buff and accuracy buff further enhancing my OVERPOWERED SLUG SHOT damage per arrow on the initial burst in which I can Store TP ASAP thus giving me around 1.5-3k TP allowing me to toss out 2-6 weapon skills in a row. Rinse and Repeat in a matter of seconds.

Did you ever play XI? That not how it works, you can't really do any of that. You can only sub one class, you can't keep anything from other jobs and even subbing one class you were still weak on the other side. Even if they were to add XI style and jobs it isn't going to be how you pictured it. Sub in XI only powers up your main job.

[Spuffin]

So I'm a "Hardcore Player" and I want to be the best of the best. Let us put the XI system to use.

1. Level Ninja to 37 for Utsusemi 2 then TRASH it.
2. Level Red Mage to 41 for Convert and Refresh then TRASH it.
3. Level Samurai to 45 for all those abilities then TRASH it.
4. Level Warrior to 45 for Warcry, Provoke, etc. then TRASH it.

Now I have the most over powered melee class in the game (at the moment) combined with every single ability that makes every other class unique, thus making all other classes pointless to level up any further. Now I can heal myself for 400-600HP along with Raise, and never miss (Zanshin) while spamming weapon skills as much as my stamina will let me; combined with every single class attack buff and accuracy buff further enhancing my OVERPOWERED SLUG SHOT damage per arrow on the initial burst in which I can Store TP ASAP thus giving me around 1.5-3k TP allowing me to toss out 2-6 weapon skills in a row. Rinse and Repeat in a matter of seconds.

LOL that would be amazing if Final Fantasy 11 worked like that and you are right and yes.. I am right every class would be over powered and the game would be broken if FF11 used FF14's afinity system. Which is my exact point...

lol you just tossed a burn on yourself.

[Abriael]

And just out of curiosity, why did you copy/paste your response to a thread in the battle content forum, about a topic that's related to the battle content, in the general discussion forum, where it doesn't belong?

By the way, your calculations are completely arbitrary, as the premise of your post. Lowering affinity ensures that the scenario you paint would simply not happen.

You CANNOT heal yourself for 400-600, because the class affinity is low, and you will be able to heal yourself for 200-300 tops. The damage dealt by feint will be lower, invigorate will be less effective regenerating less TP, second wind will heal you much less and so forth, for all the skills you mentioned, making their use extremely situational instead of a must have.

To put things down simply, you're warping reality to fit an agenda. Bad way to start a discussion, without even mentioning the wrong forum and crossposting.

Oh. And if you think that SE will get rid of the armory system and affinity (which is the very basic foundation of the game) i see some "hardcore" delusions there.

If you think FFXI is so perfect (as much as to warp reality to try and prove a false point), I'd advise to go back there.

[Dalmore]

Spuffin thats no rant to be honest its called Fact and concern I agree 100% with everything you stated.

ummm I can heal myself for almost 300 with only cure 2 on my pug 40 sothats not true Abriael

Alicia everything past ninja is Voided honestly FF11 original system anything past 37 you could not get with every job in the game not sure how it works with the level cap increase, but SE had the system almost perfect all the major abilities were past 37 minus Ninja, Or was nerfed majorly with the class subbed ie Sneak attack,trick attack so on.

[Spuffin]

Spuffin thats no rant to be honest its called Fact and concern I agree 100% with everything you stated.

Finally a non fan boy concurs!

[viion]

You're using the tags wrong.

[Blitz0309]

Abriael's nay saying aside as usual.

I agree and this is an issue i've seen with this system all long. You'll probably have 2-3 builds by the end.. Who cares if you add more classes later when the abilities are just going to be added into this ultimate bastard classes.

[JakeRoon]

Abriael's nay saying aside as usual.

I agree and this is an issue i've seen with this system all long. You'll probably have 2-3 builds by the end.. Who cares if you add more classes later when the abilities are just going to be added into this ultimate bastard classes.

and this is different from any other MMO ever created by man .....how?

[Evovenom]

Grabs bag of popcorn and chair...