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    And legions of lalafel bots aren't currently farming away as we speak? It's a whole different conversation, admittedly, but saying 'botters might abuse the system' isn't exactly a valid excuse to not implement a new system or offer more varied choices- considering the already overwhelming issues this game has with RMT.

    The truth is, I absolutely do not expect open world exp parties to make a comeback in XIV anytime soon, if ever. Popular gaming trends have changed. That doesn't mean it isn't a great idea and that the people that value that kind of gameplay don't have valid input. Just because a thing isn't popular, doesn't mean that it isn't worthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maikal View Post
    And legions of lalafel bots aren't currently farming away as we speak? It's a whole different conversation, admittedly, but saying 'botters might abuse the system' isn't exactly a valid excuse to not implement a new system or offer more varied choices- considering the already overwhelming issues this game has with RMT.

    The truth is, I absolutely do not expect open world exp parties to make a comeback in XIV anytime soon, if ever. Popular gaming trends have changed. That doesn't mean it isn't a great idea and that the people that value that kind of gameplay don't have valid input. Just because a thing isn't popular, doesn't mean that it isn't worthy.
    The open-world exp parties are exactly the thing RMT bots would, and did in V1.0. In fact someone found what I think was an exploit in V1.0 that allowed unlimited party size on one levequest, and that's exactly what you're seeing in the screenshot... and not the first MMORPG that has had that kind of bug.

    The existing mechanics in FFXIV work fine, and the only thing it could really use is a Dynamic "Raid Party" which you select a target, hit "raid invite" and it invites everyone targeting the same enemy into a 24 person raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    The open-world exp parties are exactly the thing RMT bots would, and did in V1.0. In fact someone found what I think was an exploit in V1.0 -snip for character limit-
    I remember very well the bots in 1.0, but they weren't near the issue that they currently are in 2.0. My point is that bots are going to exploit any system they can, no matter what you release. You don't design around the fear that bots will exploit, you design around players and the kinds of content they want.
    And I absolutely don't want the option for every mob I target to become a 24 player Zerg faceroll. That's completely opposite of what I'd like to see. If you're interested in my thoughts there, they're a few pages back.
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