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  1. #61
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    StrejdaTom's Avatar
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    T'aretha Tyaka
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    Ragnarok
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    Bard Lv 70
    Yeah I am still the one of the few that like this trial.
    Firstly because we finally fight a huge looking boss even if it is just scripted. Secondly because I can finally experience a story fight engaging enough so I do not have to try to solve rubics cube with my left hand while doing the trial to feel a bit of a challenge. And thirdly because it finally isn't a story fight that doesn't involve nothing more than click 1 2 3 and repeat while watching your most favorite anime (that seems to be what most of people requesting Steps of Faith nerf were doing untill now). I actually like that I cannot just lock on the boss without caring about anything else, even when the mobs are held under the boss by tanks. There is still need to use the cannons, to use the dragonkiller and to use the snare. It finally brings atleast a small bit of multitasking and I honestly hope that this fight was supposed to serve as a preparation for similar fights in Heavensward stories.
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  2. #62
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    T2teddy's Avatar
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    Fionn Iolair
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    The only thing SoF needs is the same thing every other boss fight in this game has, but SoF does not. What might that be, you ask?
    Group dies = reset.

    SoF makes us waste precious time despite it being obvious the group will not be able to stop Vishap. We need a chance for reset, period.
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  3. #63
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    MicahZerrshia's Avatar
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    It's so much better than target and spam keys. Its sad they are going to nerf it, most likely making it a point and shoot.

    I hate that everything in this game gets nerfed after 3 months. Such a waste.

    I hate to sound like an old man, but back in my day if we wanted to win a game or complete content we would just suck it up and do it without a second thought, not go to forums and complain til the devs nerfed it. By all that's good I would love to sit back and watch these kids play Super Mario 1, or better yet....battletoads.
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  4. #64
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    werfd
    I rather have them play Super Mario World, a more fun game. Old old old games were hard because people still had that "steal quarters from people in the arcade" mentality and others made games fiendishly hard to prevent people from beating a game in a single rental. The only reason people sucked it up back then was because there was pretty much no other option and kids are pretty resilient in what they want. I grew up on NES games and I can safely say some games aren't as good as I remembered them to be. I loved Super Mario Bros, but I rather play other Mario games that are better designed.

    Nerfing SOF is a necessary evil; if people buy the expansion pack and they can't access it due to them not being able to clear SOF or others holding them back for a clear, you're gonna get a loooot of people upset and tell others to not buy the expansion.
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  5. #65
    Player Buff_Archer's Avatar
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    Buff Archer
    World
    Diabolos
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    Summoner Lv 60
    I hate getting SoF in Trial Roulette because I can pretty much count on the fact the next 30 min or so of my time is going to be wasted. It's pretty much the following-

    - Someone leaves as soon as it starts (and I'd like to do that, but I'm not a selfish @$$hole who screws over people who waited in a long queue by bailing their roulette)
    - One or two players says 'I haven't done this before what are we supposed to do.' at which point I know the first run is prob gonna fail
    - 5-10 minutes later when someone's finally done explaining it and people have decided on who's doing cannons the first run starts. 10 minutes after that it fails at the far end of the bridge.
    - Team makes a second attempt, after replacing whoever left after the first attempt failed. It goes better with snares and dragonkiller, but still fails after a 10 minute walk to the other end of the bridge.
    - Vote abandon after half an hour
    - I go repair all my gear that took a big durability hit for no good reason

    I have to admit I vote abandoned the last run because the new players didn't want to do cannons, and after the first run failed, it was me and the dragoon who had been #2 and #1 on enmity list respectively on Vishap who ended up having to do cannons on the second attempt, while those who did less DPS than us on the first run, failed the DPS check on Vishap. People who think it makes sense to put whoever's doing the most damage onto cannons needs to use PF for that.
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    Last edited by Buff_Archer; 05-11-2015 at 10:36 AM.

  6. #66
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    NiahLockwood's Avatar
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    Harekumo Omomo
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    I don't normally post on forums, but seeing people complain about Steps of Faith being too hard made me laugh a bit hard, in the wrong way.

    Now I get that people don't want to play an MMO like its an MMO, that's cool, I understand. But the fact the devs gave us this means they care about us enjoying our time in the game to its fullest, and trust us enough to prove we know what we are doing.

    That being said, I've seen quite a few Dreadwyrm (lol) geared people go into Steps thinking that since they cleared Final Coil (Somehow, lets be serious here, I've seen very few people not zerg rush the mechanics expecting it to work.) they can do anything. And then they rage quit Steps of Faith saying its dumb and pointless. These are usually the same people who also say World of Darkness is too casual for them and they completely ignore it because their opinion is biased toward content they may have skimmed by on luck alone.
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  7. #67
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I done a SOF run today as my trial roulette and we cut it close to 10 minutes left, but we still won because no one in the party raged at mistakes or wipes and we kept going until we cleared it. However, I do understand the frustrations that go on since the trial leaves little room for error and if the current won can't be salvaged, nothing can be done to make the dragon walk faster, which wastes time in a trial that already takes up quite a bit of time to begin with.
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  8. #68
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    elemental10's Avatar
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    Yomiko Readman
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    They really nerfed this one HARD

    Two barrier down and it's already at 30%.

    BOOM goes the second dragonslayer, leaving like what? 10%?

    My God, that's the fastest PUG clear in SOF I've ever had.
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  9. #69
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NiahLockwood View Post
    That being said, I've seen quite a few Dreadwyrm (lol) geared people go into Steps thinking that since they cleared Final Coil (Somehow, lets be serious here, I've seen very few people not zerg rush the mechanics expecting it to work.) they can do anything. And then they rage quit Steps of Faith saying its dumb and pointless. These are usually the same people who also say World of Darkness is too casual for them and they completely ignore it because their opinion is biased toward content they may have skimmed by on luck alone.
    Well Dreadwyrm alone doesn't really show skill. People can pay to be carried and given all loot that drops in Final Coil. People also often get in statics with friends who are willing to carry them basically and they are doing well because they have a good group then they get in DF and expect the world to revolve around them. Had a few cases where I've been in an argument in DF over tactics and then they start inspecting me like "Oh i see no Dreadwyrm on you. I have this Dreadwyrm bracelet/ring which means my opinion is more important" (Translated nicely the real version is more abusive) this is followed by DF people all nodding in agreement.
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    Last edited by MXMoondoggie; 05-18-2015 at 08:25 PM.

  10. #70
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    randysquirrel's Avatar
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    Phoenix Silver
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    Odin
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    "this fight will require some co-ordin..."
    "no, all I want to do is hit this attack button. nerf pls"
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