Steps of Faith . . .

[Nova_Dresden]

I'm not sure what ideal duty servers your on, but I inevitably end up in a group with at least 2-3 people who barely scratch the ilvl 90 requirement to even enter the fight. Add to that tanks that no matter how much you tell them will never drag adds into range of cannons before the dragon is on top of you. And no matter how well you communicate something and ask if anyone has any questions no one will do what they're instructed to do or admit that they don't understand. It's part of the trial roulette, so it needs to be on equal footing or removed entirely. I don't even attempt it anymore. I take my 30 minute debuff to clean my house or whatever then go back to light farming on mahatma.

This seriously needs a nerf of either the add's/boss' health, the boss' movement speed, or at the very least a freaking echo buff.

Why in God's name was it not introduced with an echo buff?

[Bombast]

Why in God's name was it not introduced with an echo buff?

You do know what the echo buff is for, right?

[Nova_Dresden]

You do know what the echo buff is for, right?

Completing content that you have had issues clearing under normal circumstances. It's been in the game since it relaunched on solo story missions and job quests. It's not a new thing they put in 2.2 for coil, and since this is a story trial that has no loot and no bearing on accessing raid or end game content it should have launched with an echo buff. On the flip side Odin is not either of those two things, so that is why it shouldn't have a buff at launch and it didn't. I know you aren't understanding my words, but to sum it up no one should be stonewalled at a fight that once completed no one wants to do again that prevents completion of story content 2 months prior to an expansion.

Hell no! If done right, you get to kill Visharp without using the last Dragon Killer tower and the whole last part of his walk at all, so you have plenty of time for fails.

The briefing cutscene was a thing I proposed in this thread here.

Depending on the players yeah, but I honestly think they are overreaching what players in ilvl 90 can accomplish. It should have been higher than 90, or at least launch with the echo buff. I wouldn't mind making more attempts with an echo buff, but if at first wipe he's at 70% and at second wipe he's at 65% I'm not going to waste my time on that third attempt.

And a briefing cutscene would work if it weren't for the fact that almost everyone skips cutscenes and the one person who SLOWLY reads every line of text leading into a battle gets on everyone's nerves for just standing there for 10 minutes until they finish and can get the 2 minute fight over.

[Kuwagami]

I wouldn't mind making more attempts with an echo buff, but if at first wipe he's at 70% and at second wipe he's at 65% I'm not going to waste my time on that third attempt.

If your group fails at 60-70%, it's not a dps issue but a braindead issue. There is nothing Echo can solve with this.