[dev 1032] What's wrong with job/subjob again?

[RobotRivers]

The current system is fine, the current system has attracted the players who DID NOT like FFXI's system while maintaining the FFXI players as well. It doesn't need to change.

EDIT: Dreamer's right... you completely ignored her post and instead just sounded like an ass.

[Kazimir]

The current system is fine, the current system has attracted the players who DID NOT like FFXI's system while maintaining the FFXI players as well. It doesn't need to change.

EDIT: Dreamer's right... you completely ignored her post and instead just sounded like an ass.

It attracted people that promptly left the game. Not saying we should take on the Job/SJ system because I think XIV's should be it's own unique system, but the current armoury system is certainly not fine. Maybe for you it is, but they need to cater to the majority populace, and as polls have indicated the majority does not like it the way it is now. Probably due to the fact that it seems most people still playing are previous FFXI fans that are keeping hope for the game.

If they keep the current system I personally feel it needs more limitations. I'm not really too sure what the answer would be. Some ideas I've had are to limit the abilities you can take to a certain optimal rank, make it so you can only use a small number of abilities from other classes, make it so a lot more abilities are class specific, or make it so you can only use abilities from 1 class at a time. Some of these will make it SJ-ish but with a more unique and customizable twist.

Another suggestion would be just to increase the effect affinity has on cross-class abilities, because at the moment it's rather weak, especially if it is between DoM and DoW alike classes, and make the affinity boosting traits a little less beneficial. It's not really an idea I personally like but it's an idea.

[Shikyo]

It attracted people that promptly left the game. Not saying we should take on the Job/SJ system because I think XIV's should be it's own unique system, but the current armoury system is certainly not fine. Maybe for you it is, but they need to cater to the majority populace, and as polls have indicated the majority does not like it the way it is now. Probably due to the fact that it seems most people still playing are previous FFXI fans that are keeping hope for the game.

If they keep the current system I personally feel it needs more limitations. I'm not really too sure what the answer would be. Some ideas I've had are to limit the abilities you can take to a certain optimal rank, make it so you can only use a small number of abilities from other classes, make it so a lot more abilities are class specific, or make it so you can only use abilities from 1 class at a time. Some of these will make it SJ-ish but with a more unique and customizable twist.

Another suggestion would be just to increase the effect affinity has on cross-class abilities, because at the moment it's rather weak, especially if it is between DoM and DoW alike classes, and make the affinity boosting traits a little less beneficial. It's not really an idea I personally like but it's an idea.

Lmao i agree with you but dude the blind xiv extremist are gonna bite your head off for saying something needs to change... even though this game is no where near successful as it is atm.

[Shikyo]

The current system is fine, the current system has attracted the players who DID NOT like FFXI's system while maintaining the FFXI players as well. It doesn't need to change.

EDIT: Dreamer's right... you completely ignored her post and instead just sounded like an ass.

If the current system is fine, and nothing needs to change... why is the game failing?

I ask this alot and these crazy "xiv shouldnt change a thing" ppl cant seem to give a good answer, orrrrr denial "Its not failing", lmao or psh "anyone that doesnt like it is stupid and doesnt like inovation." all kinds of bs.

If the game is fine as it is why did they need to change delevopement teams producers ect?
why did they make it f2p, game price drop ect ect... please dont say just because of early release and lack of content thats not all, The fundamental game play elements where not accepted by most final fantasy fans, in other words its not a fun game and the class uniqueness is one of the main issues and that is the armory system, no?

Go ahead and say its just me that feels this way, yet more denial, thats never a bad thing.
Also i am a former XI player and i agree with kazamir the only reason I play is because i think SE knows this game is made of Fail as is and if they are smart will change to please the fans which i think they will!
but meh maybe its only me that feels this way right?

[Kimahri]

If the current system is fine, and nothing needs to change... why is the game failing?

I ask this alot and these crazy "xiv shouldnt change a thing" ppl cant seem to give a good answer, orrrrr denial "Its not failing", lmao or psh "anyone that doesnt like it is stupid and doesnt like inovation." all kinds of bs.

If the game is fine as it is why did they need to change delevopement teams producers ect?
why did they make it f2p, game price drop ect ect... please dont say just because of early release and lack of content thats not all, The fundamental game play elements where not accepted by most final fantasy fans, in other words its not a fun game and the class uniqueness is one of the main issues and that is the armory system, no?

Go ahead and say its just me that feels this way, yet more denial, thats never a bad thing.
Also i am a former XI player and i agree with kazamir the only reason I play is because i think SE knows this game is made of Fail as is and if they are smart will change to please the fans which i think they will!
but meh maybe its only me that feels this way right?

Couldn't agree more. People say that every Final Fantasy game is different from others, and they're correct. What they're wrong is that it's completely different. Being SE's second MMO it would've been downright stupid to NOT implement successful systems from the first into the new game and further refined it. This game is horrible. It's the first Final Fantasy I've decided to put the controller down and play something else.........And I've played Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles on the GameCube! Yuk! Truth is I'd gladly step back into the FFXI world because it's more pleasing even after the fact of it being nearly ten years old. Just like I'd much rather play FF7 because FF12 was less enjoyable than my original expectations.

In lack of a better word, this game is shameful of the SE name. A lack of honor. Samurai used to commit suicide over a lack of honor. I'd gladly come back when things are greener on the other side of the hill. As for now though? Haha! I'd much rather be playing Crash Bandicoot (A.K.A Sonic's Ass) than this cheap joke. And, yes. This text is in blue. I just thought I'd make a mockery of Dreamer with her purple text. Psst! It doesn't make you anymore special.

The fact of the matter is everyone is getting their panties in a bunch in this thread because a couple of furballs are trying to be self-important. You know who you are. And purple text is tacky.

Thank you, Issachar.