[dev 1032] What's wrong with job/subjob again?

[kukurumei]

It's kind of sad, really. We finally have an MMO that gives us some actual freedom in designing our character and people are so flabbergasted by the idea that they start yelling for restrictions.

Practicality > originality
reality > theory
Hindsight is supreme

Don't try to reinvent the wheel if you got no idea how to supersede it. People don't get an E for effort, and neither do designs or MMOs.

All this freedom did was be free to be let down.

And yes Conj can be thurm's and actually due to a certain skill, conj's is being taken over by thurm because you can be a conj with a slightly farther spell range.

There's no such thing as classes in FF14. It's a really thin line. Just like there's no such thing as a "build". That's a false representation.

If you fight a monster who's weak to fire, and uses paralyze on you. You instantly equip things to counter it. Whatever weakness you had, is gone, whatever strength you didn't have is given.

Resistance is futile.

Being flexible means exactly that, you have no restrictions. Whatever seemly restrictive SP limits only serve as an annoyance rather then a barrier.

Oh I lost, change skills. Freedom to woop ass

[Kimahri]

Practicality > originality
reality > theory
Hindsight is supreme

Don't try to reinvent the wheel if you got no idea how to supersede it. People don't get an E for effort, and neither do designs or MMOs.

All this freedom did was be free to be let down.

And yes Conj can be thurm's and actually due to a certain skill, conj's is being taken over by thurm because you can be a conj with a slightly farther spell range.

There's no such thing as classes in FF14. It's a really thin line. Just like there's no such thing as a "build". That's a false representation.

If you fight a monster who's weak to fire, and uses paralyze on you. You instantly equip things to counter it. Whatever weakness you had, is gone, whatever strength you didn't have is given.

Resistance is futile.

Being flexible means exactly that, you have no restrictions. Whatever seemly restrictive SP limits only serve as an annoyance rather then a barrier.

Oh I lost, change skills. Freedom to woop ass

Oh how I love you. You & I are one in the same. This current system is junk. Restrictions, please!

[Chione]

It's kind of sad, really. We finally have an MMO that gives us some actual freedom in designing our character and people are so flabbergasted by the idea that they start yelling for restrictions.

My thoughts exactly.

Oh how I love you. You & I are one in the same. This current system is junk. Restrictions, please!

See. ;3

If you want restrictions, have the discipline to apply them to yourself. There's no reason you can't do this. If you don't want to use the system, don't. Only use LNC abilities on your LNC if you prefer. But don't howl because others want to make a spear user that can also nuke or who use LNC ws on their GLA because the animation looks neat. You want handicaps and limitations, there is not a thing in the world stopping you from applying them to yourself in this game.

So I don't see where the argument is really. There will always be people insisting you must play a job this certain way. At least in XIV you can tell those types to shove it and still be able to get things done the way you want to. If you really want restrictions, find a group of people who think this way and hang out with them. They were really, really easy to find in FFXI...

Oh idly, I hear /dnc is the new /nin now in some circles over there, btw. I bet that stinks for the masses who leveled up ninja subjob just so they could get in parties. Now they're gonna have to level up another job just to be cool again. You really want that kinda bullshizzle to happen here? I think I'll pass.

[Arcell]

Practicality > originality
reality > theory
Hindsight is supreme

Don't try to reinvent the wheel if you got no idea how to supersede it. People don't get an E for effort, and neither do designs or MMOs.

All this freedom did was be free to be let down.

And yes Conj can be thurm's and actually due to a certain skill, conj's is being taken over by thurm because you can be a conj with a slightly farther spell range.

There's no such thing as classes in FF14. It's a really thin line. Just like there's no such thing as a "build". That's a false representation.

If you fight a monster who's weak to fire, and uses paralyze on you. You instantly equip things to counter it. Whatever weakness you had, is gone, whatever strength you didn't have is given.

Resistance is futile.

Being flexible means exactly that, you have no restrictions. Whatever seemly restrictive SP limits only serve as an annoyance rather then a barrier.

Oh I lost, change skills. Freedom to woop ass

While I disagree with a good deal of what you said, it holds very little bearing on the game as it's about to change in the direction of class uniqueness. I'm fine with some more restrictions, even if I think it's only because some players are too stupid to handle the freedom given to them. I simply don't want to see the job/subjob system again, I feel that's too restrictive.