The big spoiler in the Heavensward opening/trailer was a huge mistake. (spoilers obv)

[Sanne]

I cannot believe that people are still claiming these scenarios to be identical after three people have already explained why they are not.

And arguing "opening" versus "trailer" is semantics and irrelevant.

The point is sometimes spoilers do make new people interested.

In this case in my opinion, the spoiler isn't that huge for someone who has no clue about the game, it only is for people who do know the story.

You view this movie with story in mind, new people have no clue, and will probably only wonder what is going on with those characters, which is meant to create interest.

But opinions are opinions we are not all the same, what makes one excited will ruin the fun of the other.

[Noxifer]

to the OP, you do realize IF they install heavensward and run the game without choosing start that video is exactly what will play right? if you are so concerned you might want to warn to click/hit start so as not to let the video play because that video will take the place of the End of an Era/A Realm Reborn video we have in the game now.

Mmmyeah. One problem though. The first time you start the game. The very first time. You can't skip the intro video. Trust me. Just installed the game on my new laptop not two days ago. Hit "Start game", the intro starts playing. Right-click doesn't interrupt it, Escape doesn't interrupt it, Enter doesn't interrupt it. I think I tried pretty much all the keys except for alt+F4 or Ctrl+Alt+Del. Why was I so desperate to skip it? Mainly because it slapped me in the face with a reminder that I'd forgotten to switch to Japanese audio. ^^; And because it's long and annoying and I've already seen it several times.

Common sense tells me that the Heavensward intro won't play at the title screen for a completely new player who buys the complete edition.

But today's trailer, and people's opinions in this thread, lend credence to the absurd motion that it might happen.

That would be immensely stupid.

Common sense actually kinda says that it would o.o If I install any other game + expansions, the latest installed expansion's logo and intro/loading screen is what will take precedence. And if you buy both ARR and Heavensward, why wouldn't you install Heavensward while you're already installing stuff anyway?

And I agree with the 'it would be stupid' part ^^; While there is a certain point to the whole argument that a new player wouldn't know what the intro/trailer is about until 10% into the story.... by the time you get to that point, I doubt you'd have forgotten that scene from the intro/trailer, not with the emotional impact that flashback is supposed to have -- even if you don't know her, it's fairly obvious that it's something important that happened, whether that little lady happens to be axe dude's daughter, girlfriend, liege lady or friend.

I also disagree that "this is the same as the 2.0 trailer/intro showing off the end of 1.0". By the time we could play 2.0, 1.0 was gone. You couldn't play through that story even if you wanted to. But for this, 2.0 isn't gone. It's a required part to get to 3.0.
The Ishgardian scenery isn't as much of a spoiler though, since afaik expansions always include new areas added to the game. Meaning it's no big surprise that you'll get to areas you couldn't get to before.

Personally, I don't mind the scenes being there. But that doesn't mean I can't see why someone would mind.

[SpookyGhost]

I'm done with this discussion because it's completely pointless trying to talk sense into the OF, but I'd just like to point out for those that are saying that the context of the scene will make no sense to someone who hasn't played the game and won't ruin it for them at all, you meet Nanamo at like level 15. She dies in the preview. That's pretty much the climax of the entire story. The warning is there for a reason, but the scene didn't need to be there at all. People didn't need context, they just needed hype for Ishgard. It was unnecessary and stupid to put something in that completely cut off an entire portion of the game's audience from seeing it. There are other trailers, sure, but this is the full CGI one, the one that's supposed to grab people (thus the name "screen grab") which anybody new can now not see because they will get spoiled if they do. I'm amazed people are just fine with that, I guess because you're not in their shoes so it's fine whatever they do. Who cares though, they put a warning there, I hope Heavensward bombs in sales so SE finally gets a wake up call that copying WoW won't last them forever. Feel free to defend all their decisions to the death, it's really telling just how often this happens.

[Dervy]

Show them the older Heavensward Trailer without the spoilers?

[Daranion]

and I don't know about you, but it's been advertised as opening cinematic since a month or so before it was shown. I'd consider that a mislabel on the localization team

[lololink]

and I don't know about you, but it's been advertised as opening cinematic since a month or so before it was shown. I'd consider that a mislabel on the localization team

Or that this version isn't complete. Or that maybe, an opening scene can be used as a trailer.

[DefendPopPunk]

Isn't the fact that your character is in Ishgard for the entire trailer a spoiler as well, since the entire MSQ pretty much hammers in the fact that Ishgard is closed off to us outsiders? SE just shouldn't make trailers for their expansion at all, too many spoilers the expansion is now spoiled.

[lololink]

Isn't the fact that your character is in Ishgard for the entire trailer a spoiler as well, since the entire MSQ pretty much hammers in the fact that Ishgard is closed off to us outsiders? SE just shouldn't make trailers for their expansion at all, too many spoilers the expansion is now spoiled.

I think you forgot the spoiler alert about the end of the main quest of ARR when they say that we are going to Ishgard that rejoin the Eorzean alliance.

[DefendPopPunk]

I think you forgot the spoiler alert about the end of the main quest of ARR when they say that we are going to Ishgard that rejoin the Eorzean alliance.

I admit I only watched it once so I don't remember every word that came onscreen but all I'm getting at is that the entire trailer shows off quite a bit that is built up to in the MSQ that really any part of it could be spoiler and not just the five seconds of flashback of that "one moment," as mentioned by the OP.