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    This was discussed a bit on a reddit post way back and I think the popular consensus was:

    1) Have the option to turn it on and off in settings
    2) Have settings where it be private (practising/learning new class etc) or could be public (raid settings where this actually matters)
    3) Have an additional setting that hides public parses from other players (for those that don't care/don't want to see/want to avoid being trolled/etc)

    People asking for x or y dps in PFs is about as valid as people asking for specific experience to a phase in PFs. It'll be very apparent once in the instance if the player in question lied/doctored a screenshot/etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kittyband View Post
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    Most players who actually know the value of a parser will know how dps varies from fight to fight. In terms of raid context the information is crucial, without them if someone isn't pulling their weight and there's no metric for comparison groups could be wiping on progression fights when the fault lies on one person (good groups will usually try to help the player improve versus just exiling him/her off the bat). Other content like dungeons or hm trials don't require parsers for the most part. In the above setting the only people you need to worry about are the trolls (who will still troll via whatever avenue you give them with or without a parser).
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    Quote Originally Posted by siverstorm View Post
    Most players who actually know the value of a parser will know how dps varies from fight to fight.
    95% of the time, parsers are taken out of context and used as grounds to flame someone. Most players don't know the value and simply sees it as a tool to condemn other players, which is why it shouldn't be put in-game.

    Very easy to figure out who's not pulling their weight anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoye View Post
    95% of the time, parsers are taken out of context and used as grounds to flame someone. Most players don't know the value and simply sees it as a tool to condemn other players, which is why it shouldn't be put in-game.

    Very easy to figure out who's not pulling their weight anyway.
    95% of the time...care to elaborate on how you came to that figure?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
    95% of the time...care to elaborate on how you came to that figure?
    Because if that number isn't real then the argument wouldn't have worked, gosh. Never argued on the internet before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoye View Post
    95% of the time, parsers are taken out of context and used as grounds to flame someone. Most players don't know the value and simply sees it as a tool to condemn other players, which is why it shouldn't be put in-game.

    Very easy to figure out who's not pulling their weight anyway.
    If you're not clearing an enrage timer/dps checks with little to no dps deaths then it's valuable. I strictly spoke in a sense where the information is actually useful. And the implementation I suggested does well to alleviate the issue of "getting flamed for poor dps in random content". Just turn your public setting off if you want to see your dps and not display it to other players.

    Of course people with third party parsers are going to still see your dps. If they bothered to comment on it and you're doing something trivial like a dungeon you have a couple of options. You could either improve, report, or laugh at them and shrug it off.

    Honestly, I'm fairly skeptical about how a parser in game would help much aside from ps4 raiders. Most of the people that QQ about people calling out dps don't really sound like they ever want to improve anyway and a lot are unsettlingly okay with being outdps'd by a tank in their tank stance.
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