ACN/SMN should be unlinked from SCH entirely

[Slappah]

I disagree with giving summoners more burst directly. They aren't meant to be bursty like a blm, it's a dot and summon job.

One thing I would REALLY love to see though, is a way to put all of your dots on a target with 1 GCD. It could have a CD, or not, idk, but something like this would be pretty awesome imo and would buff smn burst, but not directly.
With this, you could use 1 gcd to get your dots, then fester(which is off gcd, so we're still on the same global)

Edit: More on-topic, I also disagree with splitting smn/sch.
They both work just fine right now, I don't think splitting them up would be worth what effort it would take because at that point their basically going to resign an entire job, and for what? Because people think smn is weak?

Wake up call people, just because summoner isn't god tier like they were before fcob doesn't mean they are bad by any means. Summoners can do good dps in all content in the game right now, they got a buff to ease the mp issue, just because blm is pulling ahead doesn't mean it needs to be buffed.

You can play a summoner in any content in the game and excel. Could the job use tweaks? Maybe, yes, but you could say the same for any other job.

[rawker]

and do note of the change on how SpS will affect DOTs. that's something to ponder upon

[Bombast]

You leave my Resurrection alone, god damn it. One of the best parts of being a Summoner is being able to resurrect people, allowing the heals to continue during tough spots in combat, and the fact that dots and Egi damage means doing so doesn't even reeally hurt overall dps that much.

Summoner and Scholar do not need such deep reaching changes.

[Sequora]

You leave my Resurrection alone, god damn it. One of the best parts of being a Summoner is being able to resurrect people, allowing the heals to continue during tough spots in combat, and the fact that dots and Egi damage means doing so doesn't even reeally hurt overall dps that much.

Summoner and Scholar do not need such deep reaching changes.

With the direction of the game, I disagree. Yoshi-P said himself that SCH / SMN was a failure. DRK was originally supposed to be the other gladiator job. SMN and SCH have been hard to balance so they have abandoned the dual job idea. Yoshi said that the latest SMN changes were difficult to implement because they couldn't do anything that would be a buff to SCH. The jobs need to be split up.

[Bombast]

Yoshi-P said himself that SCH / SMN was a failure.

That keeps getting thrown out, and people keep asking for a source, and yet, I see none.

I have no doubt that Yoshi-P said something about dual-job classes being tough and undesirable at this point, but quit throwing the word 'failure' around. Nothing failed. No class has been withdrawn, or nerfed so bad its unusable, or buffed so heavily its broken. It was, perhaps, a failed experiment. But the jobs themselves are not failures.

[Iromi]

I really hope they do split the two...got my fingers crossed. >.<

[rawker]

no need to split the two. they just need to implement job skills that will define one from the other. the base class is just there. what needs expanding are job skills.

[Craiger]

no need to split the two. they just need to implement job skills that will define one from the other. the base class is just there. what needs expanding are job skills.

This.

It looks like they are completely abandoning class abilities for Heavensward. So we will get several new job abilities for both SCH and SMN, which should be enough to "separate" the jobs and make them stand out....

I would like to see some improvement on SMNs burst damage, but not necessarily make it much higher, just give them some better options than wasting Aetherflow on Energy Drain or something.

DRG is good a burst damage, and they totally outshine MNK in that department (for example), but MNK have higher sustained DPS, so they balance each other out. Same could be done with SMN and BLM.

As for the egis... They wouldn't have to take up more space than another player. Titan could be the size of a Roe for example(like someone mentioned).

[SoloWingMetatron]

It looks like they are completely abandoning class abilities for Heavensward.

As for the egis... They wouldn't have to take up more space than another player. Titan could be the size of a Roe for example(like someone mentioned).

This is exactly why the jobs don't need to be split. Going Heavensward it seems pretty obvious any new abilities will be unique to that job, so SMN/SCH will no longer be treading on each others toes. All SCH would need is some abilities that increase it's healing repertoire/potency. Perhaps in the form of a third fairy that is dedicated to AoE healing as well as a single target Reraise spell, which could work similar to Enkindle allowing the SCH to select which target the fairy will cast it on. So when that target died they would be instantly raised.

All SMN needs is a slight increase to DPS output via new abilities and tweaks to Enkindle/Egi.

[Akiza]

In Heavensward SE is just adding multiple new Job actions so there is no need to split the Scholar from Arcanist.