Lack of Housing - Still an Issue

[thunderbreak]

I'll be honest with you, I don't think the FF14 devs should have opened their big mouth and mentioned anything about housing or planed housing in the first place. They obviously can't deliver a satisfactory product. And various bullshit "emergency measures" have been implemented such as progressively making housing affordable, or "eventually" relinquishing land after period of inactivity (which you just gotta login during a free login weekend to renew). And lets not mention that drama with personal housing.

Seems like the mistake from 1.0 has already been forgotten.

If you can't deliver, don't pitch it. No matter how you sugar coat it, the shit smell will eventually seep through the icing.

[Zelas]

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Their biggest issue is, they're trying to please everyone. And that's something they can't possibly do.
They announced the plan for relinquishing plots that are unused. A few people liked it. The vocal majority BLEW UP WITH RAGE.

They withdrew it and are now thinking of some other way to do things. Eventually. "When they're done working on Heavensward".


SE needs to grow some balls and do things that may upset some people, but that are actually good for the whole of the community.

/shrug

[BreathlessTao]

And who would even want to leave a world like Balmung or Gilgamesh (except to go to the other)?

On that note: who would even want to leave any world for another one, when they've been saving up gil since time immemorial, but would lose basically all of it, with the money transfer cap being a measly 1mil?...

We knew housing was coming even in 1.0.

This hurts me the most. I've been anticipating it since waaaaaay back then. Now? I still can't have a house.

SE needs to grow some balls and do things that may upset some people, but that are actually good for the whole of the community.

And oh, look, another issue where they don't seem to want to take responsibility... :/

On a personal note...
I really don't understand the whole "neighbourhood" argument, to begin with. Maybe I'm just on the wrong server, but what exactly does "neighbourhood" want to mean in regards to housing and housing wards? I've seen people running up and down in housing wards. I've seen people idling away in housing wards. I've seen people crafting and browsing the market boards in housing wards. ... So what? I fail to see how it is any different from, say, Limsa or Mor Dhona. What is the difference? Never have I seen anyone go "oh hey you're my neighbour, can you lend me a hand please?". Or "hey guys we're together here, let's organise a beach party!". Never have I even heard anyone telling about any such experience. Again, I might be on the wrong server, idk. But even so, how does any of these things require a "neighbourhood"? They can be (and are) done just as much at any given point in the world, surely?




(AGAIN. PLEASE REMOVE CHARACTER LIMIT. THANK YOU.)

[Adire]

Neighborhoods can be valuable and a good thing to some, particularly roleplayers. It also allows players to show off their houses and decorations more easily. I personally prefer instanced neighborhood/non-instanced housing myself if it's implemented correctly. Given the choice between that and what SE has done, I'd definitely choose to have an instanced house without neighborhoods though.

However, neighborhoods do not mean housing must be unavailable to most people. As I've said before, LOTRO has neighborhoods, and has enough houses for the majority of players and the houses are quite affordable.

[Bluevann]

A suggestion I've been suggesting for a while, but that I doubt will be considered since it'd require a general overhaul of the housing system:

Step 1) Make instanced housing. This allows everyone to have a house, especially if instead of gil it asks for GC points or Main Scenario progress like for most of other games. I'm thinking of an instance similar to the Demon Doors in the Fable games, with house, yard with field, well and whatever. It would start with small, and will be able to be expanded through further accomplishments.



Step 2) Make the housing wards, limited as they are now (since they don't have the servers do add more currently). For a fee (like the current fees we have now), you'll be able to move your instanced house inside the ward. So for example, 4M to move your instanced Small Hut into a Mist Small Plot. Of course, the price will raise with your instanced house's size, and you'll need to select a plot your house can fit in.

This way, all those who want a house can have a house, and all those who actually care to have a neighborhood (and will use it), can have a neighborhood. Houses for all, and no more ghost towns.

[Imoye]

Housing should be available to everyone. It's beyond ridiculous that it isn't.

[Sartori]

I was a little upset that a question on the first page of one of the "Ask questions for Producer Live" Which questioned if and when more housing would be introduced went unanswered after gaining a lot of interest from likes.

The issue in lack of housing still exists on a lot of servers. Balmung being one with zero plots available and still many Free Companies without a house.

Housing is only for the rich, and the ability to buy one within 5 seconds....

[Dree-Elle]

I'd love to help, but I don't know how. The first leader of our FC, who abandoned the game well over six months ago, bought house after house, cranking out alts each time he wished to do so. As a result, my (as I lead now) FC has THREE extra, abandoned houses. Two in the Goblet (Sm and Med), and one near our HQ in Lavender Beds (Sm).

How can we unload this extra real estate?

[Loki]

It's an epic fail cause the housing system we have was created for FC not for individual players!!

They said they were working on personnal housing since the v1...and finally they just copy pasted FC housing for personnal housing....wtf?

So it's normal if each of us can't get a house if the system itself was designed for FC only, i'm still disapointed about it like everyone who care about housing x.x it's juste a joke and they look proud of it cause they don't say they will change something about it...wooow

[LaylaTsarra]

I'd love to help, but I don't know how. The first leader of our FC, who abandoned the game well over six months ago, bought house after house, cranking out alts each time he wished to do so. As a result, my (as I lead now) FC has THREE extra, abandoned houses. Two in the Goblet (Sm and Med), and one near our HQ in Lavender Beds (Sm).

How can we unload this extra real estate?

Some consideration should be given to revoking housing rights for those who elect to not to subscribe continuously. For example 3 months (or something similar) of non subscription could be a benchmark for revoking ones house. I understand housing is expensive but it's not fair to those who want houses to maintain the housing rights for those who have quit the game.