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  1. #1
    Player
    BreathlessTao's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    And who would even want to leave a world like Balmung or Gilgamesh (except to go to the other)?
    On that note: who would even want to leave any world for another one, when they've been saving up gil since time immemorial, but would lose basically all of it, with the money transfer cap being a measly 1mil?...

    Quote Originally Posted by Quesse View Post
    We knew housing was coming even in 1.0.
    This hurts me the most. I've been anticipating it since waaaaaay back then. Now? I still can't have a house.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zelas View Post
    SE needs to grow some balls and do things that may upset some people, but that are actually good for the whole of the community.
    And oh, look, another issue where they don't seem to want to take responsibility... :/

    On a personal note...
    I really don't understand the whole "neighbourhood" argument, to begin with. Maybe I'm just on the wrong server, but what exactly does "neighbourhood" want to mean in regards to housing and housing wards? I've seen people running up and down in housing wards. I've seen people idling away in housing wards. I've seen people crafting and browsing the market boards in housing wards. ... So what? I fail to see how it is any different from, say, Limsa or Mor Dhona. What is the difference? Never have I seen anyone go "oh hey you're my neighbour, can you lend me a hand please?". Or "hey guys we're together here, let's organise a beach party!". Never have I even heard anyone telling about any such experience. Again, I might be on the wrong server, idk. But even so, how does any of these things require a "neighbourhood"? They can be (and are) done just as much at any given point in the world, surely?




    (AGAIN. PLEASE REMOVE CHARACTER LIMIT. THANK YOU.)
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    Dree-Elle's Avatar
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    Dree Elle
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 60
    I'd love to help, but I don't know how. The first leader of our FC, who abandoned the game well over six months ago, bought house after house, cranking out alts each time he wished to do so. As a result, my (as I lead now) FC has THREE extra, abandoned houses. Two in the Goblet (Sm and Med), and one near our HQ in Lavender Beds (Sm).

    How can we unload this extra real estate?
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    Last edited by Dree-Elle; 04-12-2015 at 09:32 PM. Reason: Not fully awake yet; need caffiene

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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dree-Elle View Post
    I'd love to help, but I don't know how. The first leader of our FC, who abandoned the game well over six months ago, bought house after house, cranking out alts each time he wished to do so. As a result, my (as I lead now) FC has THREE extra, abandoned houses. Two in the Goblet (Sm and Med), and one near our HQ in Lavender Beds (Sm).

    How can we unload this extra real estate?
    Some consideration should be given to revoking housing rights for those who elect to not to subscribe continuously. For example 3 months (or something similar) of non subscription could be a benchmark for revoking ones house. I understand housing is expensive but it's not fair to those who want houses to maintain the housing rights for those who have quit the game.
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    Zelas's Avatar
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    Ciel Valke
    World
    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Putting FC housing and Personal housing in the same basket was a dumb idea to begin with. Who really benefits from housing? Who is getting a ton of new content added to their housing in 3.0?

    Free Companies.

    Personal housing offers no advantage whatsoever, except showing off, or having a personal place to spend time at if you don't want to chill in the city. Personal housing owners are not getting FC crafting, or FC airships. Free Companies are.

    So it makes absolute no sense that people can buy off ALL the FC housing for themselves, and lock all the potential new Free Companies out of the upcoming content.

    And I wish SE would at least talk about it. It's infuriating not to have our questions answered when the situation is an obviously dire one. They should be DOING something about it, but they're not even TALKING about it. It's like they're pretending nothing's wrong.
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    "I'm OK. This rock broke my fall."

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    Saccharin's Avatar
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    Blue Kitty
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 84
    Purge of abandoned houses has to happen. How many in the earlier ward actually still have players active.
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    TinyMonster's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Soushie Monster
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    I am very dissapointed at how the house system works for many reasons.

    1. You can't shared them once married (would be nice with friends too).
    2. Everyone should be able to afford one.
    3. The limit on furnitures is really not enough.
    4. Lack of features on personal houses.
    5. Not enough wards.

    Neighbourhoods are dead, I barely see someone.. At this point they should add instance housing as an option for people that doesn't care about empty neighbourhoods.
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    Last edited by TinyMonster; 04-12-2015 at 03:22 AM.

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    silverhope's Avatar
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    Meg Xori
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    no housing on many other servers as well. Cactuar only has 14-50mil houses left.
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    Zelas's Avatar
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    Character
    Ciel Valke
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    I know Balmung's situation is bad. As it is, and with housing and FC housing mixed together, I'm actually worried that when they release more housing my FC and I won't be able to grab a Medium house before people tear apart the servers the minute they come up to grab everything that's available.

    For their own personal use.

    Which pisses me off, to be quite frank. I can't count myself among the problem. Balmung was my server from the very beginning of 2.0. I don't know -why- it's become as overpopulated as it is, but I certainly didn't ask for it. So I don't see why I should be punished for that, or why I should be the one telling my Free Company: "Well, we're SoL. Let's leave all of our friends behind and move elsewhere so we can enjoy 3.0 content!"

    Anyways, we're roleplayers. And the only two "unofficially official RP servers" in the game are overpopulated.

    /shrug
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    "I'm OK. This rock broke my fall."

  9. #9
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    Housing issue is a bit bad here, the system isn't really special and imo its pros are considerably out weighed by its possible cons. I thought when they were going to do neighborhoods it was going to be more like a mix of phase shifting and one zone(like WoW's Farm/phasing, where your plot would be in your phase and all the other plots not used by you would be other player's). That way you never have zombie districts or limited choices since it always packs the district you are in around your own house (attempts to at least).

    At this point unless they can go hybrid I just want to have/see more value in going even further instanced, you can get far greater customization that way - like a Rift or Wild Star. Which was my preference in the beginning anyway, wanted to see FC with a dock, chocobo farm (actual stables, not an animal abuse box), and a FC castle and player city like possibility, AoC (given enough money ofc lol). Perhaps they could make a FC instance system and a Dark Cloud (level 5) sort of player housing with NPCs in current districts, that would crap on WoW's Garrison system lol ("FFXIV gives you an entire city to customize and develop").

    While I'd like much greater customization (personal zone) just fixing the demand would be a fantastic - it is personally sad to think SE keeps adding content to a system that can be dominated by a single account (I know of a few players who own 5 houses, just one account/person) and will significantly reduce the value and desire to join new upcoming FC as they are out of content and high player valued aesthetics (aesthetic status symbol, generates income, has/will have associated exclusive game content).

    Would love to play house in FFXIV, love SE visuals, but overall the system feels a little hastily put together and F2P games having better options makes me feel a little sad. It takes a lot of resources and time to develop big systems I get that, but I dislike the feeling they are satisfied and 'finished' with what (i m o) feels like a mediocre system. The silence and most recent words are unnerving ("it is a concern and we are actively looking into a solution" would be great lol).

    Imo.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 04-12-2015 at 04:42 AM.

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    Aerowaffle's Avatar
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    Isaac Direstone
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    I feel like there should be some sort of incentive to go from having a house to not having a house. As it stands, there are plenty of players that own a house, but don't really do much with it. But since they already have a house, there is no reason for them to give up the plot since there is no downside to having an unused house once already owned.

    Having some sort of overtime cost to the house would provide some incentive for people to give up plots that aren't being used.

    Another solution (that doesn't directly involve adding more plots), would be to increase the permission system for housing. So that a group of friends can share a single house with everyone having full permissions to modify and use everything in (and outside) the house. There are several instances where friends want to use the same house (exclusively between them), but don't want to be in thier own free company purely for that reason.
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