Lack of Housing - Still an Issue

[silentwindfr]

Was stated recently that since most servers have available housing, they feel it's fine the way it is.

ok, then the over populated server are screw because .... low population server didn't have all them house sold yet?
on ragnarok last time i did check only 2 house was remaining, one L and one M. (for the M someone probably did drop) but still, it's a huge trouble that most person of the server are not able to own him house. same, one question disturb me, why not have create a personal room service inside the adventurer guild, since this one is instanced already. for allows every one to have acces to housing in some way.

The problem is that many people keep joining the full servers despite them already being...full.


Small wonder that the wards are filled if everyone only wants to join the big servers.

or simply people joining friend on the well established server, no? i means you don't expect guild to drop them rang, guild bank and house simply for migrate, right?

[Aeyis]

or simply people joining friend on the well established server, no? i means you don't expect guild to drop them rang, guild bank and house simply for migrate, right?

People reroll on other servers all the time in other mmos. Or pay for server transfer if they are too attached to their character. That's in games where transfering costs 2-3 times as much as it does here.


This topic has already been argued to death. But anyone that joins a server that is already full, by putting in effort to bypass the character creation restrictions doesnt have much of an argument here.

but still, it's a huge trouble that most person of the server are not able to own him house. same, one question disturb me

Most people dont even want or care about having a house. And plenty of those that do only have/want one for fast access to retainer/mb/less lag during crafting.
Houses arent as remotely required for enjoying the game as many seem to claim. (for the majority of the game's playerbase)

[Intaki]

Houses arent as remotely required for enjoying the game as many seem to claim. (for the majority of the game's playerbase)

Without a house you lose access to: easy access to facilities, chocobo coloring, chocobo training, and gardening. All of that in addition to not getting access to the actual housing which continues to be developed on the dollar of players who are barred wholesale from accessing it.

Implying that you have any idea what the majority of the playerbase thinks only makes you look like even more of an imbecile than you already are.

[myahele]

Doesn't help that people who bought houses and decide to quit playing will still have that house. Period.

These empty houses will not contribute to the servers community. They wont grow the ever-increasing need to for certain crops that the devs keep adding.

That abandoned house will not become an FC house where members can mingle. Now new FCs can never advance since having a house offers so many perks.

But this only affects highly populated servers in their mind.

[Fenral]

Doesn't help that people who bought houses and decide to quit playing will still have that house. Period.

As a fellow Greg-dweller, I'm sure you've seen them: the ghost towns and endless fields of dead Jute, Glazenut, and Thavnairian Onions...

Housing should never have been a "first come, first served" system.

[Bluevann]

While they said they felt they met the demand, they also said they'd monitor each server's situation. That's what I want to hear about.

[Quesse]

I am still a little bitter about housing. Let's look back a little.

We knew housing was coming even in 1.0. We also knew that our gil would have a zero knocked off it. So it was a big question - what is housing going to cost? How much would be available? I had about 40 million gil at the time out of a possible 999 million. The thinking was that would easily buy a medium house and 100 million would probably be the upper limit for a big house.

So 2.0 arrived. One VERY IMPORTANT thing happened. Our gil was reduced (mine from 40 million to 4) BUT the total amount you could amass was left the same at 999 million. Why was this important? Because it allowed Yoshi to both reduce the economy's gil but still charge astronomical amounts for housing. After all, who would pay 90 million for a house if the max gil you could carry was 99 million?

This is important because in the name of "people have too much gil" "gil needs to be removed from the economy" Yoshi was able to get away with providing only a very very limited supply of houses. Think about it. Was it a coincidence that there happened to be an important reason for removing gil and raising housing costs at the same time that there was an inability to provide enough server capacity for housing?

As time has gone on it has become more obvious. SE has reneged on all the promises given about affordable, plentiful, separate personal housing and has no intention of providing any of it. What I cannot understand, is WHY? I think this is the reason for your OP. SE has done a terrible job explaining exactly why housing should not ever be affordable, why it should be extremely limited, why it must remain integrated with FC housing, why there can't be additional more affordable instanced housing.

I love housing and the community experiences it builds. I'm sad everytime I hear an FC member say they can't afford a house or that there is no house available. Or that we can't easily form an FC neighborhood.

In case anyone has forgotten:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ore-affordable.

[lun4tic]

So 2.0 arrived. One VERY IMPORTANT thing happened. Our gil was reduced (mine from 40 million to 4) BUT the total amount you could amass was left the same at 999 million. Why was this important? Because it allowed Yoshi to both reduce the economy's gil but still charge astronomical amounts for housing. After all, who would pay 90 million for a house if the max gil you could carry was 99 million?

This is important because in the name of "people have too much gil" "gil needs to be removed from the economy" Yoshi was able to get away with providing only a very very limited supply of houses. Think about it. Was it a coincidence that there happened to be an important reason for removing gil and raising housing costs at the same time that there was an inability to provide enough server capacity for housing?

JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

[thunderbreak]

I'll be honest with you, I don't think the FF14 devs should have opened their big mouth and mentioned anything about housing or planed housing in the first place. They obviously can't deliver a satisfactory product. And various bullshit "emergency measures" have been implemented such as progressively making housing affordable, or "eventually" relinquishing land after period of inactivity (which you just gotta login during a free login weekend to renew). And lets not mention that drama with personal housing.

Seems like the mistake from 1.0 has already been forgotten.

If you can't deliver, don't pitch it. No matter how you sugar coat it, the shit smell will eventually seep through the icing.

[Zelas]

snips

Their biggest issue is, they're trying to please everyone. And that's something they can't possibly do.
They announced the plan for relinquishing plots that are unused. A few people liked it. The vocal majority BLEW UP WITH RAGE.

They withdrew it and are now thinking of some other way to do things. Eventually. "When they're done working on Heavensward".


SE needs to grow some balls and do things that may upset some people, but that are actually good for the whole of the community.

/shrug