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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Once you get the hang of Brayflox and don't get a crappy group it's really simple to do. MP potion can help i used to like popping one after i drop 10-15% MP so i know it will be off CD if the fight drags on and i need a late MP boost. The rest just hope for good freecure procs. If it's not getting too out of control you can let a couple of poison stacks hit the Tank before removing it the poison alone won't kill them remember SCH does this without being able to clense and you have really good single target heals plus a proc for a Cure II that costs no MP. If you are constantly spamming esuna for every poison it can be a pointless drain.
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    Melody Quinn
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    Don't be discouraged. I actually recently posted about the same thing after i was told how bad i was on this dungeon. I got some great advice from the lovely people here, and went back to it. It's a great dungeon to get practice in, and it really helps to prepare you for what's ahead. I've now done all the dungeons up to aurum vale (lv 47) and though I've been met with some criticism I've also had my share of praise. The more you do the dungeons the more comfortable you will get with how to use all of your abilities.
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    Ivory Spirit
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    Faerie
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Allocate your bonus point between Mind & Piety.

    I am main WHM, and I didn't dump all my points on Mind. Due to latency (Getting invisible damage) I added also some Vitality (and Still have them).

    I'd say 50%-50% for Mind & Piety for now, and don't worry about the allocation. GC sells a Hymn that will reset the point so you can adjust them if you bought one.

    At Lv.37 you'll get the real deal healers' Accessories, Try to get PINK Accs (Green gems accs add Piety , Blue gems accs add Mind).
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwaitum View Post
    Allocate your bonus point between Mind & Piety.

    I am main WHM, and I didn't dump all my points on Mind. Due to latency (Getting invisible damage) I added also some Vitality (and Still have them).

    I'd say 50%-50% for Mind & Piety for now, and don't worry about the allocation.
    This approach, while it certainly won't kill you or cause major issues, is generally suboptimal, so don't take it if you are inclined to min/max.

    PIE is found in abundance on healer gear, and the only content in the game for which players purposely aim for a specific minimum VIT is Final Coil. That being said, if like Kuwaitum you find that a certain stat combo appeals to you or works for you, go for it; just be aware of your options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwaitum View Post
    Allocate your bonus point between Mind & Piety.

    I am main WHM, and I didn't dump all my points on Mind. Due to latency (Getting invisible damage) I added also some Vitality (and Still have them).

    I'd say 50%-50% for Mind & Piety for now, and don't worry about the allocation. GC sells a Hymn that will reset the point so you can adjust them if you bought one.

    At Lv.37 you'll get the real deal healers' Accessories, Try to get PINK Accs (Green gems accs add Piety , Blue gems accs add Mind).
    Vitality is really pointless for a Healer you shouldn't be getting hit by anything that isn't full party damage and your gear will give you more than enough to cope same with Piety if you can't manage at lvl 50 when you have 5k MP then you are seriously wasting it. I've yet to see a good reason to add a bonus to any stat but Mind you want to increase your heals it's what you do. Cleric stance swaps your Mind stat for Intelligence so it increases your base damage too and your main job in most parties as a WHM is using Holy.
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    Colette Pascal
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    Brynhildr
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie View Post
    Vitality is really pointless for a Healer you shouldn't be getting hit by anything that isn't full party damage and your gear will give you more than enough to cope same with Piety if you can't manage at lvl 50 when you have 5k MP then you are seriously wasting it. I've yet to see a good reason to add a bonus to any stat but Mind you want to increase your heals it's what you do. Cleric stance swaps your Mind stat for Intelligence so it increases your base damage too and your main job in most parties as a WHM is using Holy.
    If you as the healer die, the whole party is screwed. Vit helps keep that from happening. If you know the fights and everyone does what they are supposed to, you won't need extra vitality, but that does not always happen. I have a full set of melded accessories that gives me a lot of extra vitality and it has saved plenty of runs. That said, I currently have all 30 points in Mind. My jewelry gives me plenty of extra Vit. I agree Int is a waste and PIE is not the best use for your points. At low levels, Vit and PIE do make a bigger difference than they do in endgame.
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    How To Train Your Faerie
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/209109-How-To-Train-Your-Faerie-A-Comprehensive-Guide

    Best tank guide ever! (Not mine but I am putting it in my sig because it is THAT awesome.)
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/228662-A-Visual-Guide-to-Tanking

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    Karis Angara
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie View Post
    Vitality is really pointless for a Healer
    Tell that to people doing T13 with less than 6k HP.

    On a more related note, it's generally about Regen and not overhealing (healing to full means you're usually healing a tiny bit too much). It's also the tank's (and, to a lesser degree, the DPS players) job to make your life easier by taking as little damage as possible. There was another thread on here recently about a healer having issues in Brayflox - his tank kept getting hit by the boss' beam attack time and time again and then he gave the healer a rough time for not keeping him alive. It's a little give and take.
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    Dia Beetus
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I dont think its necessarily bad to put some vit in at lower levels. However at ilvl100+ i'd switch to full mind as you get lots of vit from gear (even without any vit based acc. I have 5k hp). At higher levels u need greater potency heals and you would become a bit more adept with mechanics so u wont need such high hp. There is little reason to put points into piety u
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    Get lots of piety from gear anyway.
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    Dia Beetus
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    I dont think its necessarily bad to put some vit in at lower levels. However at ilvl100+ i'd switch to full mind as you get lots of vit from gear (even without any vit based acc. I have 5k hp). At higher levels u need greater potency heals and you would become a bit more adept with mechanics so u wont need such high hp.
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