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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Rename some old abilities to fit the naming conventions of past Final Fantasy games

    Leeches -> Basuna, or Erase(renamed to previous FF status removing abilities like Basuna or Erase)
    Life Surge -> Lancet(delivers an attack which usually drains HP/MP in most FF games, and in many games the animation involves dragon spirits enrobing the player or the target,which is Life Surge's current animation)
    Blood Bath -> Blood Weapon(this is what it was called in previous FF games)
    Berserk->Warcry (typically a Warrior ability that increases your damage without lowering defense, as opposed to Berserk which does)
    Blood for Blood->Berserk (In FF and FFXI, berserk increased attack but lowered defense.
    Foresight -> Defender (Forsight in 1.0 was what Keen Flurry is now, parry rate. Defender is a classic WAR ability in FF games which reduces damage)
    Second Wind -> Chakra (In every FF game MNK's self cure is Chakra.

    It's like class abilities were named by developers who never picked up an FF game before. Please rename these abilities!
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    Also a few abilities had their functions completely changed in 2.0 from 1.0 but the names remain the same, as such, the names of the following abilities no longer match their function making them very awkward sounding:

    Feint (used to be similar to Haymaker)
    Keen Flurry(This used to increase accuracy of your attacks, hence the name. The current properties of enhanced parrying no longer fit with the name of the ability).

    I'm sure there's a few other abilities or spells with awkward names due to properties being altered from 1.0 to 2.0 that perhaps should get a rename.
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    A lot of the names come from FF11. As well as many abilities in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    A lot of the names come from FF11. As well as many abilities in general.
    None of those come from 11. Only one was even in 11 (berserk), and that one has been in pretty much every main FF except 1 and 3.

    That being said the names are fine. Anyone "who's picked up a FF game before" would know the series changes naming conventions quite frequently.
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    I still think it is odd that Black Mages use Fire 1, 2 and 3 vs Fire, Fira and Firaga.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline View Post
    I still think it is odd that Black Mages use Fire 1, 2 and 3 vs Fire, Fira and Firaga.
    Just remember though it wasn't Fire/Fira/Firaga until VIII or something.
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    Player Skeith-Adeline's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    Just remember though it wasn't Fire/Fira/Firaga until VIII or something.
    Funnily enough, that's my first FF game and my favorite lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    Just remember though it wasn't Fire/Fira/Firaga until VIII or something.
    In Japanese, it's always been Fire, Fira, Figa since the very first Final Fantasy. It just wasn't until VIII that we received that spell nomenclature in a localized version, with some tweaks such as Figa -> Firaga (To make it sound less awkward, I'd guess?).

    Quote Originally Posted by zcrash970 View Post
    I heard that in the JP version of the game, -ra and -aga are used.
    Yep, the names still follow this in Japanese, like Miasra or Blizzaga.
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    Quinton Lightblaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline View Post
    I still think it is odd that Black Mages use Fire 1, 2 and 3 vs Fire, Fira and Firaga.
    This was talked about during the beta. Yoshi-p said that it would be easier to understand the numbers over than the traditional -ra, and -aga. I heard that in the JP version of the game, -ra and -aga are used.
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    Risotto Misotto
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    Quote Originally Posted by zcrash970 View Post
    This was talked about during the beta. Yoshi-p said that it would be easier to understand the numbers over than the traditional -ra, and -aga. I heard that in the JP version of the game, -ra and -aga are used.
    It wasn't Yoshida who said this, it was Fernnwhales (i'm spelling that wrong I'm sure) and the loc team debated over the subject for, apparently, a very long time. They decided for English localization they would go with roman numerals because the ra-ga-ja suffixes used in the japanese localization feel too arbitrary. They are also applied to materia apparently, and include -da's and there is inconsistencey between the sufixes for materia and spells (-ga is not always the third, -ja is not always the 4th etc.) They felt that anyone who picked this game up as an MMO that did not have FF experience (and they exist, I've known a few) would find the convention confusing.

    That said, I don't find the Numbered way to be better, it really only tells you the order in which you learned the skills - the effect of each skill feels completely arbitrary by its name. Either way it's silly and I too would prefer the suffix-based naming system. It's just as arbitrary and feels more familiar. I get -why- they did it, I just don't agree with it
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    Last edited by RissotoMissoto; 04-17-2015 at 01:39 AM.

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