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[Rhas]

If they wanted to actually bother fixing it, it wouldn't take much. Remove the GC restrictions. Remove the node/tower NPC BS. Capture should play like Arathi Basin. Slaughter should play like TDM. Maybe add CTF.

Are we supposed to know what Arathi Basin is? What is TDM? I'm assuming CTF is Capture the Flag?

Other than that I agree that their system is inherently flawed as it is and with the DF, it's even worse. They seem to think that more maps = better experience. The problem is that with more maps, it dilutes the already few people even more and will most likely just increase the wait time in general causing more people to not want to play it causing even longer wait times.

I personally agree that it should be redone to focus more on PvP and less on PvE and though I really don't mind some PvE interaction, I don't think PvE should affect the outcome of a PvP match. I pvp to fight people not see who can take PvE nodes/etc the fastest.

[Zaft]

Are we supposed to know what Arathi Basin is? What is TDM? I'm assuming CTF is Capture the Flag?

Did you know you can google things you are unfamiliar with? Anyway, snarkiness aside:

Arathi Basin: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/pvp...s/arathi-basin

TDM: Team Deathmatch

You are correct that CTF is capture the flag.

[Wobi]

The GC Restriction is one of my favorite parts, you keep worrying about teaming up with your friends as opposed to queueing up at the same time and hope you end up locked in battle with each other fighting for your respective GC. I'm a proud Immortal Flames and I have a blast trying to take out my friends in PvP, if you let just anyone in there then there is no teams also the amount of pre-mades rolling everyone would skyrocket and you'd quit after losing 50 in a row because you single queue.

[Illya]

The GC Restriction is one of my favorite parts, you keep worrying about teaming up with your friends as opposed to queueing up at the same time and hope you end up locked in battle with each other fighting for your respective GC. I'm a proud Immortal Flames and I have a blast trying to take out my friends in PvP, if you let just anyone in there then there is no teams also the amount of pre-mades rolling everyone would skyrocket and you'd quit after losing 50 in a row because you single queue.

No MMO exists where solo queuing is better than rolling in a premade for PvP, nor should people always solo queue in an MMO which last I checked is the only game genre which explicitly insists players group for content.

GC restriction is bad, the lore explanation is worse, and it should have been removed a long time ago.

[Lorielle]

if you let just anyone in there then there is no teams also the amount of pre-mades rolling everyone would skyrocket and you'd quit after losing 50 in a row because you single queue.

Uhh. What? You do realize premades happen often even with the GC restriction, right?

[Wobi]

Uhh. What? You do realize premades happen often even with the GC restriction, right?

Yes and it would become even worse if they remove GC restriction. I noticed quite a few people say they don't even PvP because of this, so perhaps you are unaware of how much premades suck to play against. Not many of my friends are into PvP so I solo queue often.

[Lori]

Yes and it would become even worse if they remove GC restriction. I noticed quite a few people say they don't even PvP because of this, so perhaps you are unaware of how much premades suck to play against. Not many of my friends are into PvP so I solo queue often.

Except it would also cause many premades because people would be playing with their friends. Their experience would be more enjoyable regardless whether they win or lose.

And it wouldn't get worse because there would be more and more premades on ALL of the teams. Not just one in particular. It's really a win win. Not sure why you'd be against getting rid of GC restriction. It was a horrible idea from the start

[Lorielle]

Yes and it would become even worse if they remove GC restriction. I noticed quite a few people say they don't even PvP because of this, so perhaps you are unaware of how much premades suck to play against. Not many of my friends are into PvP so I solo queue often.

Because they have coordination on their side and they don't, so they don't play PVP? Makes complete sense. I don't see the logic behind this when people gather under the same banner and do the same exact thing. I PVP often and I've fought premades. Yes, it sucks to fight a coordinated team. Yes it sucks to have BOTH alliances push you back and out. **** happens. But know that Premades aren't unbeatable. People need to stop using this as an excuse. It actually depends on what the THIRD alliance plans on doing.

[Zabuza]

The GC Restriction is one of my favorite parts, you keep worrying about teaming up with your friends as opposed to queueing up at the same time and hope you end up locked in battle with each other fighting for your respective GC. I'm a proud Immortal Flames and I have a blast trying to take out my friends in PvP, if you let just anyone in there then there is no teams also the amount of pre-mades rolling everyone would skyrocket and you'd quit after losing 50 in a row because you single queue.

You speak as though premades don't exist in a single GC, they do. With it set up like this, if you're in a losing GC you're pretty much screwed unless you can switch GC. Plus a LOT of people in PvP want to play with your friends. To be honest, improving PvP could only benefit SE, as when some hardcore players run out of things to do, they can PvP to pass the time. PvP definitely seems to be an afterthought here, which surprises me a bit considering how Yoshida had listed DAoC among his favorite games.

If there is one thing I've learned from 15 years of playing MMOs, it's that restricting people's options is usually a bad thing. Regardless of whether you like this GC restriction or not, it's pretty much responsible for PvP queues being an hour long.

[LTEvil]

Did you know you can google things you are unfamiliar with? Anyway, snarkiness aside:

Arathi Basin: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/pvp...s/arathi-basin

TDM: Team Deathmatch

You are correct that CTF is capture the flag.

Lol. I mean we took a lot of ideas from WoW. Why not take some PvP ideas? If anything Wed actually get to streaming for PvP which would help gather more fans. Personally I want more PvP but the way combat is I can't see it ever being really competitive. However getting rid of gc restrictions will almost instantly lower q times. Also reduction in zerg PvP plz. 10 v 10 mhmmm