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    Elmeron's Avatar
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    This is often how I see new players treated in FFXIV:

    Read tdlr at end, my screenshot got messed up lol...It's frustrating since I have gone through similar experiences. I've only played almost 2 months now and I am really not a fan of how new people are treated in group content. Letting a person die because of something as this petty (the person had full health before boss made him unmovable and there was no predicting whether he/she would be the next target or not so essentially what people tell are telling him/her to do after the fact is to spam a heal on him/herself, and the other healer just let him/her (sorry, I really couldn't tell the gender...) die to "teach him a lesson" I'm guessing. *Eyeroll*) is really ridiculous in my opinion. All the person asked to do was be able to watch a cutscene and still be allowed to participate in the fight... The cut-scene was literally like 20-30 seconds.

    The icing on the cake is that the other healer just let that person stay dead, even when the boss fight was over.

    I'm on Faerie and I'm actually getting to a point where I'm growing tired of having not many friends and seeing this sort of toxic behavior take place. Trying to add people from forums has proven impossible too as when I go online to try to add people they aren't on, so that's been a huge bust... Guess I either have to continue dealing with this commonality or quit (I guess I have bad luck with groups too and seem to somehow attract groups like this for some reason or another).

    P.S. Forgive my crappy paint editing skills... I am not a fan of Microsoft Paint lol

    Edit: Pic is being wonky, so tdlr, players basically being asswads to new player who wanted to watch a 20-30 second cut-scene in a trial and also be able to do the fight without being locked out, player had to skip cut-scene because people are too impatient, and then when he goes, "really" he/she get's all kinds of crap, and then he/she gave crap back. Everyone was wrong, but I still think older players could not be so... Immature.
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    Last edited by Elmeron; 03-30-2015 at 01:33 PM.

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    Chiramu's Avatar
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    Maybe that person could move to a better server or you could move to a better server too ? The only time I might dislike newbies is if they use, "I'm new" as an excuse to not do the best that they can. If a newbie is doing everything they can to play to the best of their ability I see no problem in taking a little bit extra time for them.
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    I don't really see any good people in that chat, so what are you trying to say? The fact you can hardly tell who's saying what aside, every person involved seems to be a bit of a twat.

    Just because you're new doesn't mean that you can have things your way, especially if you're just one person in a party of 8.
    Blame Square Enix for foolishly putting cutscenes in the middle of the dungeon and then making them able to be skipped.

    Also, side note, 20-30 seconds may not seem like long, but it's tedious to sit there and wait for ONE person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistoltin View Post
    I don't really see any good people in that chat, so what are you trying to say? The fact you can hardly tell who's saying what aside, every person involved seems to be a bit of a twat.

    Just because you're new doesn't mean that you can have things your way, especially if you're just one person in a party of 8.
    Blame Square Enix for foolishly putting cutscenes in the middle of the dungeon and then making them able to be skipped.

    Also, side note, 20-30 seconds may not seem like long, but it's tedious to sit there and wait for ONE person.
    Yeah, I couldn't get that pic to come out correct the new player didn't handle him/herself very well either, think they were frustrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmeron View Post
    Yeah, I couldn't get that pic to come out correct the new player didn't handle him/herself very well either, think they were frustrated.
    And what they? That was you. I was there...don't try to hide behind pretending that you weren't acting every bit an entitled idiot y'self.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurpsmeister View Post
    And what they? That was you. I was there...don't try to hide behind pretending that you weren't acting every bit an entitled idiot y'self.


    What are the chances, guess he didn't think anybody else would be on the forums


    Stupid post limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmeron View Post
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    Actually, the moment you twisted the story to act as a third party instead of being directly involved, you lost all credibility..

    And of course you're not gonna reply, you're probably not even gonna read the post anymore because you know how this will go from here lol.

    As far as not res'ing the healer goes, if I'm in a group where the other healer's a liability, either undergeared or underskilled, I also leave him be. Res is such a huge mana sink, if I do it too often, that could put me at risk of running out of mana and the entire party's dead.. In that case, I usually prioritize res'ing the SMN if there is one, and the SMN can subsequently res the other healer if he has enough mana left over. It's nothing personal, just a strategic decision

    BTW Claire, how appropriate your signature is
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    Last edited by Gillionaire; 03-30-2015 at 02:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistoltin View Post
    lol
    SE included a sol bonus cuz they knew new players may want to watch the cutscenes. You enjoying your sol bonus? Surely you can wait an extra 20-30 seconds off you run :P

    Why deny a new player their immersion and gaming experience because you're tired of it? Why queue for the lower level content then? I see no justification for denying any noob their immersion or experience in FFXIV, sorry.
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    Last edited by Elusana_Celah; 03-30-2015 at 01:35 PM.

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    Player dughug's Avatar
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    Eolas Solais
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistoltin View Post
    I don't really see any good people in that chat, so what are you trying to say? The fact you can hardly tell who's saying what aside, every person involved seems to be a bit of a twat.

    Just because you're new doesn't mean that you can have things your way, especially if you're just one person in a party of 8.
    Blame Square Enix for foolishly putting cutscenes in the middle of the dungeon and then making them able to be skipped.

    Also, side note, 20-30 seconds may not seem like long, but it's tedious to sit there and wait for ONE person.
    Sorry dude, but you're wrong in your justification. If it was made to watch during the dungeon, than you're just going to have to suck it up.
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    This is what FCs are for. ^^;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadana View Post
    This is what FCs are for. ^^;
    Maybe I need to find a better FC because I see this excuse reason for others to be just generally rude to new players quite a bit, but I never really do much group content with my FC. Usually just use FC as a chat-bar to be honest...
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