Untradeable

[Krausus]

So with the new Materia system coming up and the speculation that untradeable gear will not be able to be turned into Materia or will not be able to be imbued with Materia will dungeon gear and other untradeable gear become obsolete?

Now I didnt play a lot of FFXI but correct me if im wrong, I dont remember there being many untradeable items. I know the MMO standard now a days is the bound equipment, but I like to think that FFXIV can think outside the box and do away with such a system.

removing the untradeable tag could have many benefits ill just name a few.

• Allows said items to be used in the Materia system.
• Allows for trading of said items opening a market for them.
• provides a solution to mistakenly obtaining an item from the loot list on dungeon/NM runs.
• allows access to items for casual players that do not have time to obtain them through other channels.

Now I know some folks will not like the ability for players to buy said items and feel like obtaining them makes them feel exclusive to the general public. I say who cares, the dungeons are easy right now and folks will still feel exclusive for the first few months before they start selling items, if they sell them. Hell being able to turn them into Materia will lower the sell rate and the items would still feel exclusive.

I dont want my dungeon loot to be come obsolete because of the Materia system....do you?

This is all of course if the speculation is correct and untradeable items will not be allowed to benefit from the Materia system.

[Onidemon]

So with the new Materia system coming up and the speculation that untradeable gear will not be able to be turned into Materia or will not be able to be imbued with Materia will dungeon gear and other untradeable gear become obsolete?

Now I didnt play a lot of FFXI but correct me if im wrong, I dont remember there being many untradeable items. I know the MMO standard now a days is the bound equipment, but I like to think that FFXIV can think outside the box and do away with such a system.

removing the untradeable tag could have many benefits ill just name a few.

• Allows said items to be used in the Materia system.
• Allows for trading of said items opening a market for them.
• provides a solution to mistakenly obtaining an item from the loot list on dungeon/NM runs.
• allows access to items for casual players that do not have time to obtain them through other channels.

Now I know some folks will not like the ability for players to buy said items and feel like obtaining them makes them feel exclusive to the general public. I say who cares, the dungeons are easy right now and folks will still feel exclusive for the first few months before they start selling items, if they sell them. Hell being able to turn them into Materia will lower the sell rate and the items would still feel exclusive.

I dont want my dungeon loot to be come obsolete because of the Materia system....do you?

This is all of course if the speculation is correct and untradeable items will not be allowed to benefit from the Materia system.

There is a reason most MMOs have untradeable items. First those are usually rare or quest items. They require you to work for them, they are a reward for YOUR effort.

Making everything tradeable would kill crafting and the economy overall. Why craft a specific set of armor when there's 10 of them in the markets and once the person who buys it is done with it they will just resell it, so items keep getting recycled over and over instead of being remade by crafters.

Also imagine spending weeks and months of hard work to acquire an armor set and then see someone in your LS with the same armor but they purchased it in the markets....even maybe with Gil that was bought from gold farmers.

Rare and quest time need to be all untradeable.

[Krausus]

I disagree. With the Materia system I think said items would be used to create Materia, My goal isnt the economy or other players its the ability to use my gear for the materia system. Also lets not kid ourselves here the items are not hard to obtain.

With the new Materia system crafters are not gonna have to look hard for work.

[MariyaShidou]

So with the new Materia system coming up and the speculation that untradeable gear ...

Your answer.

[TheVedis]

I dont want my dungeon gear to become obsolete because i cant put materia in it like crafted gear!

I dont want my crafting gear to become obsolete cuz dungeon gear is better and can be slotted with materia!

Well I had to fight this boss 50 times to get the drop!


And I had to lose 40 peices of good gear to slot this with 5 materia!


ITS NOT FAIR!
ITS NOT FAIR!
ITS NOT FAIR!

[weeble]

i don't' agree with op on anything outside of turning dungeon drops into materia. but i don't want them turned to trade able. i would ask the devs to make all untrade able rare/ex turn into new unseen and wanted materia's. this will make all content live on past the new content. being able to go into old dungeons for the gear just to turn into materia for the new dungeon content will be a great thing, if u add caps to those dungeons on top of that and u got a winner.

if gear will become obsolete, and content obsolete in this game then it will fail, it will become boring to anyone with more then one class especially. u won't want to gear up multiple classes if 2-6month later the gear is useless again. all these things are removing game time and content enjoyment in my opinion.

[Krausus]

i don't' agree with op on anything outside of turning dungeon drops into materia. but i don't want them turned to trade able. i would ask the devs to make all untrade able rare/ex turn into new unseen and wanted materia's. this will make all content live on past the new content. being able to go into old dungeons for the gear just to turn into materia for the new dungeon content will be a great thing, if u add caps to those dungeons on top of that and u got a winner.

if gear will become obsolete, and content obsolete in this game then it will fail, it will become boring to anyone with more then one class especially. u won't want to gear up multiple classes if 2-6month later the gear is useless again. all these things are removing game time and content enjoyment in my opinion.

hopefully it will be an option which I would be fine with the issue then will be come how will you put materia in the dungeon gear? the only way would be to rank up the required crafting class to at least rank 40.

[Krausus]

yeah many arguments for and against...its a slippery slope and again it is still just speculation at this point, would be nice to get a dev response concerning materia and dungeon loot.

[MeowyWowie]

U/U gear will be able to be enhanced, at least some of it. It remains unclear if we can turn it into materia though.

[Krausus]

U/U gear will be able to be enhanced, at least some of it. It remains unclear if we can turn it into materia though.

So you think meterai can be added to it if you have the required crafting class ranked up?