Speed run etiquette

[Magusrex]

There seems to be no speed run etiquette. It would be polite, if you want to do anything other than a full run normal clear. IE do the instance as it was intended, 1 group at a time all mobs ect. If you want to skip mobs, pull multiple groups it would be nice if you would speak and express your desire. I find it annoying that as soon people are able to leave the ring, even if it is your first time in the instance, you are watching the cutscene, and people leave without even saying Hi. I am the healer and I am chasing them, I have to sprint to keep up. I can handle it almost all the time, I'm good, I know I am. I even Holy the hell out of stuff and help them go faster once I assess the play and gear of the group. They don't watch chat if I say I need MP, they don't watch my MP. My daughter can need me for something and I say after this pull I need 1 min AFK. They just keep going.

I know I can teach them manners and let the fools die and sometimes I do. I just do not understand why at the start we can't communicate. Greet each other, give others some expectations for the run. If you just hate people and refuse to communicate, how about just take the first pull normal and analyze your group, crush it, try two groups pull next one. Know what you have before you run off like a maniac.

I don't want to wipe a group just to teach the inconsiderate and stupid a lesson but I'm getting close to adopting that philosophy. That said there are groups out there that can do things just fine without saying a word. You slowly ramp up the speed, you pause when my MP is low. You make sure the group is together, you got it all under control. I am not speaking to you, you are a pleasure to be with. I am talking about the people who run off before you are ready, get killed and insult you because they died.

[ThanMazus]

I know I can teach them manners and let the fools die and sometimes I do.

Yes, I'm sure you're teaching a lot of random internet people manners.

[Magusrex]

Yes, I'm sure you're teaching a lot of random internet people manners.

You're right, but why can't we communicate? We are real people playing a social game. The only thing that is going to stop people from behaving that way is to give them an undesirable outcome, if you just chase after them, they will just repeat the undesired behavior.

[ThanMazus]

You're right, but why can't we communicate? We are real people playing a social game. The only thing that is going to stop people from behaving that way is to give them an undesirable outcome, if you just chase after them, they will just repeat the undesired behavior.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I just thought the idea that anybody was teaching manners to randoms was amusing. People could communicate, but it's less effort to just start pulling. I've let some people die after rude comments and such, but I'm not under the impression that I taught them anything.

[Mugiawara]

It's a speedrun. Talking takes away from the speed...

[Namasu]

If the instance was intended to be killed 1 mob at a time, there would be locked doors everywhere that won't open until you kill the current wave. Most dungeons only have about 4 or 5 of that lock on average and many of the trash mobs are obviously skipable. You can't say that the game intended you to full clear every dungeon when there is all of this option to speed run and save time.

As for the people that go too fast for your pace, just tell them to slow down or you won't be able to keep up and the party will wipe. Nothing's wrong with being assertive for your own sake. You have to understand though that most people are running the same dungeon for 50th time because the game basically force them to do it in order to progress their relic quest so it's pretty common for people to go in instances, say nothing, turn on netflix and faceroll through the last boss and treat everyone else as an NPC.

[Lego3400]

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IF you'd be wipeing every other pull at the minimum required iLevel for the dungon, you're pulling to much and speeding. No deaths at that level is the speed the dungon is ment for. Not the "I out gear this by 50 iLevel so let's throw caution to the wind" speed.

[Gramul]

Step 1: ask.
If yes: speed run.
If no: don't.

Doesn't really need to be any more complicated than that.

[Ayamia]

Step 1: ask.
If yes: speed run.
If no: don't.

Doesn't really need to be any more complicated than that.

Maybe not need to, but 90% of the time it is more complicated... Since none of the 3 others answer back. They just give a blank stare at the entrance.

[Gramul]

Maybe not need to, but 90% of the time it is more complicated... Since none of the 3 others answer back. They just give a blank stare at the entrance.

Then don't make any assumptions. A lack of response is not consent. Just kill everything and open the chests till the dungeon is over or they actually agree to a speedrun later in.