Has it always been like this or...?

[Mugiawara]

Bad things.

Please stop queuing for the storyline. Just stop. If you aren't going to take the time to deal with the CS/newbies.
STOP doing it. We all know it has long Cs's...Save yourself the time and friggin' DON'T QUEUE FOR THEM. Very simple!
This has been a problem since release...I hope SE doesn't add something like this anymore though because if people
are getting harassed to death and beyond and kicked because of them watching a CS and nothing can really be done then it's not worth it anymore.

[Duuude007]

Please stop queuing for the storyline. Just stop. If you aren't going to take the time to deal with the CS/newbies.
STOP doing it. We all know it has long Cs's...Save yourself the time and friggin' DON'T QUEUE FOR THEM. Very simple!
This has been a problem since release...I hope SE doesn't add something like this anymore though because if people
are getting harassed to death and beyond and kicked because of them watching a CS and nothing can really be done then it's not worth it anymore.

The same argument could be made against new people using a player roulette and expecting that the majority would cater to them And harassing the majority even though they are in the right...

There are demons on both sides of the argument.

[Viridiana]

The same argument could be made against new people using a player roulette and expecting that the majority would cater to them.

Except that the new people aren't using the roulette. They're queuing for that specific dungeon. You know, to finish their story.

[Duuude007]

Except that the new people aren't using the roulette. They're queuing for that specific dungeon. You know, to finish their story.

DF = player roulette =/= duty roulette. You get fast access to the dungeon BECAUSE repeat players are joining in DF, don't kid yourself thinking otherwise.

The roulette that is 'random players joining' will always determine who is part of the majority, and ultimately what vote decides how the party will progress.

[Viridiana]

player roulette =/= duty roulette. You get fast access to the dungeon BECAUSE repeat players are joining, don't kid yourself thinking otherwise.

So, just so we're clear, "player roulette" is what everyone else calls "duty finder"? You can't just come up with random terms just to correct people when they think you're saying something you're not.

[Duuude007]

So, just so we're clear, "player roulette" is what everyone else calls "duty finder"? You can't just come up with random terms just to correct people when they think you're saying something you're not.

I already edited my post. semantics. it is still majority rules, regardless.

[Viridiana]

I already edited my post. semantics. it is still majority rules, regardless.

I'll agree with majority rules when the majority isn't being a ****. >_>

Edit, because stupid daily post restrictions:

And when the minority is being a ****, it isn't also considered harassment? Just saying.

Wanting to watch cutscenes is harassment now? Don't get me wrong, if the person who wants to watch cutscenes is *also* harassing people, that's an issue. But to say that the majority rules when the majority can't even do math to find better ways to get tomestones. . .

[Noshpan]

Except that the new people aren't using the roulette. They're queuing for that specific dungeon. You know, to finish their story.

Others would say "Don't use duty finder to queue up for CM/Prae".

There is no winning side to this debate at all.

[Belhi]

Others would say "Don't use duty finder to queue up for CM/Prae".

There is no winning side to this debate at all.

The issue with that is that it potentially turns off new players from the game and new players are the lifeblood of any MMO. Without them MMOs start to wither. Every time a new player has an awful experience in CM or Prae and is turned of the game it hurts the future of the game. That's the reality of player turnover.

Frankly the only reason for there even to be a Main Scenario Roulette is to facilitate new players. Its very existence and the benefits from running it were almost certainly created entirely for that purpose. The very generous rewards in sols are to compensate veterans for that.

Regardless, SE seems to have learned somewhat by not creating similar instances later. Its likely Heavensward won't have a CM/Prae equivalent though I could likely see all the necessary dungeons and trials in the 2.X put into the Main Scenario Roulette.