Why I have no interest in Coils more specifically, T9.

[VargasVermillion]

Coil content can be achieved by anyone, you just have to want to clear it. Somehow people have this idea that they should be able to clear said content within the same amount of time as someone that works harder for runs. The turns takes what 15 mins at most when you clear them? Just take time to practice and learn, can't be any longer than farming stuff for your relics, nor as boring.

Saying you work and whatnot isn't a real excuse, that's just expecting to clear content at the same time as people that do have more time (and/or care more about the content) which is just illogical.
Attitudes can be bad on both sides of the fence but making easier content isn't the answer.

[OMEGA_HACK]

Coil content can be achieved by anyone, you just have to have others who want to clear it. Somehow people have this idea that they should be able to clear said content within the same amount of time as someone that works harder for runs. The turns takes what 15 mins at most when you clear them? Just take time to practice and learn, can't be any longer than farming stuff for your relics, nor as boring.

Saying you work and whatnot isn't a real excuse, that's just expecting to clear content at the same time as people that do have more time (and/or care more about the content) which is just illogical.
Attitudes can be bad on both sides of the fence but making easier content isn't the answer.

fixed this for you.

[zcrash970]

fixed this for you.

Well that goes without saying. It is a mmo after all.

[LunaHoshino]

fixed this for you.

Just did yet another T5 clear for two more people, making a total of around 26 people I've helped clear T5 in the past two weeks. There are many, many people out there who want to clear Coil and who are willing to put in the time and effort to learn the fights; likewise, there are just as many of us who are willing to jump in and help the people who are making an earnest effort to take initiative to clear the content for themselves. The key words there are taking initiative-- all of the people I helped clear had taken the time to learn the fight for themselves rather than just expecting the rest of us to carry them through it.

They put in the effort and were rewarded with a clear. That's exactly how things should work.

[Krr]

The turns takes what 15 mins at most when you clear them?

(cough) in groups that spend up to 3 hours each night learning them and dealing with each other's screw-ups (cough)

also 'helping people in DF with T5' yeah a thing that started happening the exact moment people could get a >50% success ratio in DF for the 100 sol

let's be real here, raiding 101:

-post all over the internet that you're lf static
-join static you fit the criteria of
-do content until you win
-only trust your fists
-pugs will never help you


pro tips:
-be prepared to server transfer. have an alt to stay in touch with your non-raider friends
-spin content gates as tryout opportunities
-keep gearing up. if you don't find something this patch, you will the next one
-pugs will seriously never help you in anything harder than t5
-unless your static is classified as HC it's okay if you suck, just don't be an ass about it. dropping someone for 'being bad' anywhere that isn't some kind of ridiculous elite club like collision or bg is often a last resort because believe it or not, most pf/friendlist substitutes will actually be worse than you and it takes days or even weeks to grab a good-looking replacement

[VargasVermillion]

(cough) in groups that spend up to 3 hours each night learning them and dealing with each other's screw-ups (cough)

My point is that raiding isn't beyond anyones reach, the content itself isn't long, learning it/progression varies. "working" or "having a life" isn't an excuse, especially if you are still willing to grind for relics.

[StrejdaTom]

(cough) in groups that spend up to 3 hours each night learning them and dealing with each other's screw-ups (cough)

let's be real here, raiding 101:

-post all over the internet that you're lf static
-pugs will never help you
pro tips:
-be prepared to server transfer. have an alt to stay in touch with your non-raider friends
-pugs will seriously never help you in anything harder than t5

I have never raided more than 2 hours 3 times a week, never had to post all over the internet, just into community forums here, never had to server transfer even when I was in around 6 statics so far (since 2013) and I cleared T1-T4 and T6-T8 in pug parties + farmed T10-T12 with pugs.

[raelgun]

I have never raided more than 2 hours 3 times a week, never had to post all over the internet, just into community forums here, never had to server transfer even when I was in around 6 statics so far (since 2013) and I cleared T1-T4 and T6-T8 in pug parties + farmed T10-T12 with pugs.

And to add to this, been in the same group for over a year now in FF14 and in WOW, I have been in only 2 raiding guilds for the duration of 5-6 years of playing and never had to server transfer for any of those nor have a alt lying around, oh and FF14 and WOW raiding, the schedule I have ran is 3 nights a week around 2- 2 and half hours a session.

And been pretty successful progression wise for all intents and purposes, people seem to think theres this extreme nature with raiding when there really isn't, makes you think how much experience they really have in this scene.