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  1. #11
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    Wournsfeik_Untawhasyn's Avatar
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    Wournsfeik Untawhasyn
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    Zalera
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    P4 of T9 would be more your speed then, and T10, heck even T11. Most of those involve having mechanics thrown at you and picking at random who gets them. Elements might be the worst example because of Fire In Fire Out patterns. But it's honestly more about reacting to the situation and not getting dived.
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    Lucceia Verres
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis_Nephthys View Post
    Yup, this is a troll post.
    It was hidden in there.
    And how exactly is that trolling? I explained my part. Now please explain yours. I'm saying that MMO's rely too much on one hit kill mechanics that work in vague ways.
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    Shiloh Everlost
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    How far into T9 have you made it? A lot of the mechanics in T9 can be determined with one wipe or a bit of intuition. Noticing that the meteor make an explosion when they land for example. Something bad might happen if you have too many explosions too close.

    Wait until you get to the rest of the fight. After golems it's entirely reaction and seeing what's where and responding to it. You cannot predict who's going to have an elemental tether but you sure as hell have to respond to it quickly or significantly hamper your chances of success.
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    Has there ever been a raid that was beatable on the first run? I'm honestly curious.
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    Yashakiden Sellecerre
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    think i get what the op is trying to say... But oh well if the boss has a set rotation just makes the fight laughably easy once you know the rotation yes a bit boring if you don't like the "memory game" stuff just don't do T9 or FcoB
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamesmart View Post
    Has there ever been a raid that was beatable on the first run? I'm honestly curious.
    World of Darkness.
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  7. #17
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    Hazel Mimelia
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    Could you imagine if T9 was completely random. A lot of people can't already beat it, this would make the number of players sky rocket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyarel View Post
    World of Darkness.
    As someone who ran WoD within the first few hours of it going live, completely blind, with 23 other people going in blind, we wiped to mechanics that are painfully obvious now. The only reason you can one-shot it now is because people know the fights, even if you don't.

    Besides, it's MEANT to be far easier than Coil. Any hardcore raid in any game involves wipes while learning how to deal with mechanics.
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  9. #19
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    If everything was just dodging and you could do it in one shot just from dodging then top guilds would clear everything day 1 and that would completely defeat the point of prog raiding.
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    Claire Abigail
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    Yea....no thanks op, I don't want something I can just face roll and laugh and leave me feeling as if I didn't achieve something once I downed that content.
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