Why I have no interest in Coils more specifically, T9.

[Cherie]

So like was this a troll post? lol... I don't get why it got to 38 pages so fast.

I guess the obviousness that it would be a troll would be: Why is it just Turn 9 that is the culprit here as being the only turn with scripted mechanics (so much so as it no longer interests OP). Clearly the turns after that have the same tried and true scripted mechanics that basically the entire game has while we are talking about it (yes yes, I know there are some random mechanics like turn 10 with the random chance of tether and charge, varying combinations for instance, but those are less common).

Could it be that was just the last one you did and...sour grapes cause you couldn't find a group that you liked doing it with (can't solo it after all)?

It's nothing new, basically I hear people say that stuff a lot. It's like everyone has their excuse why they don't wanna raid on hand. I enjoy raiding, but I know not everyone does. I have plenty of friends that steer clear of it altogether. But my advise would be, to avoid 38 page thread like this, just say that you don't like the game in general or raiding in general or whatever the case is. When you single out turn 9 (a stopping point for many just starting raiding, late in the game), it just sounds like sour grapes and everyone feels tempted to just troll....

[Ashkendor]

When you single out turn 9 (a stopping point for many just starting raiding, late in the game), it just sounds like sour grapes and everyone feels tempted to just troll....

My guess is that yes, it is sour grapes; OP had difficulty with T9 and has decided nothing past that is worth it. :s

[KarstenS]

Personally I would prefer fights that used your skills in terms of mastering your class

Its alway interesting, how people, that never have done the content they complain, think, its just about mechanics and not personal skill.

Thats not the case. You cannot beat that content just by caring about mechanics. You also have to play you class at its best or you won't meet the requirements to beat that content. You have to plan ahead as a team or you won't beat that content.

[Dhex]

1. Raiding is frustrating.
a) Scheduling and finding people that can work together.
b) Content is all about choreography.
2. Raid content is extremely limited.

[Lilyarel]

My guess is that yes, it is sour grapes; OP had difficulty with T9 and has decided nothing past that is worth it. :s

Ive never done T9. I looked up a guide and it looked incredibly boring.


Secondly, even if I did have issues with it it would just me be saying "Well, **** I dropped the stupid meteors in the wrong place." or "Great, the boss did the thing thats inevitable going to wipe us."

Is that fun? Is messing up at the very last second just to do the same exact thing over considered entertaining with absolutely not change up what so ever?

[Jamein]

Ive never done T9. I looked up a guide and it looked incredibly boring.


Secondly, even if I did have issues with it it would just me be saying "Well, **** I dropped the stupid meteors in the wrong place." or "Great, the boss did the thing thats inevitable going to wipe us."

Is that fun? Is messing up at the very last second just to do the same exact thing over considered entertaining with absolutely not change up what so ever?

I love how you say that someone's elitism is showing (which you then edited out), but your ignorance is unbelievable.
You've never done t9, but you declare that it looked incredibly boring. How on earth can you judge something without going in and getting first hand experience?

Some of us get joy out of beating the hard encounters in the game. I take absolutely no pleasure in running dungeons/chocobo racing/triple triad/Crystal tower runs or anything like that.
My fun comes from those wipes, watching as my group wipes over and over but getting further and further and performing better until finally you beat that encounter, until eventually you can do things like t9 without even thinking, but I still find T9 to be one of the most fun fights in the game.

You clearly don't care for end game raids, and that is absolutely fine, but some for some of us, that's the part of the game we enjoy. Personally, I like a challenge, the harder the content the better for me I don't care if it means countless wipes, I like that progression gaming.

[Lilyarel]

.*snip*

I edited out because I thought it was rude.
The fight is going to be the exact same thing every single run because it never changes. She will always drop the meteors at the same time, the mechanics will always be the same. Youll always need to stack debuffs at the same exact time. So from watching guides I can already see exactly what the fight is going to be no matter how many times you run it. As you said with the wiping, all that does is reset the fight to do the same thing over again.
Also. I love how you call me out on name calling then you go calling me ignorant. Your hypocrisy is unbelievable.

[Jamein]

I edited out because I thought it was rude.
The fight is going to be the exact same thing every single run because it never changes. She will always drop the meteors at the same time, the mechanics will always be the same. Youll always need to stack debuffs at the same exact time. So from watching guides I can already see exactly what the fight is going to be no matter how many times you run it. As you said with the wiping, all that does is reset the fight to do the same thing over again.
Also. I love how you call me out on name calling then you go calling me ignorant. Your hypocrisy is unbelievable.

I wasn't calling you out for name calling, I was calling you out because you were being ridiculously ignorant by calling someone an elitist on a subject you clearly know nothing about as all you have done is 'looked at a guide'
If you honestly think these fights come down to JUST knowing the rotation, then please explain to me why so many people fail at them, despite all the guides they read, why a hell of a lot of the player base still struggles with t5/t9.

Knowing the fight is one thing, being able to do the fight is another matter alltogether.
I'm not denying the fights are scripted, but to say that is incredibly boring without even trying them for yourself is just plain ignorant.

[Lilyarel]

*snip*

Its a memory game and nothing else. People are bound to make a mistake. And the fact that the fight itself is an endurance test, its probably the boss weighing on their minds rather than the boss being difficult. Its the same reason people fail/make mistakes on any other test. Memory isnt perfect. Its bound to happen eventually.

[Jamein]

Its a memory game and nothing else. People are bound to make a mistake. And the fact that the fight itself is an endurance test, its probably the boss weighing on their minds rather than the boss being difficult. Its the same reason people fail/make mistakes on any other test. Memory isnt perfect. Its bound to happen eventually.

Again, you wonder why I call you ignorant, you make these claims without having set foot inside the fight.

You know nothing (.....Jon Snow)