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  1. #361
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    Thiel Vigilas
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTofu View Post
    troll post...
    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Troll post indeed...
    My posts were directly discussing what the OP had brought up as a topic. I gave a specific example that maybe hints at why the OP made this thread to begin with. I was on-topic and civil, merely explaining why such a mechanic could cause issues with certain groups. Yep, must be trolling.

    People are frustrated with endgame because of this type of stuff. If you all wish to ignore their cries and still shout "git gud" on old content, so be it.
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  2. #362
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    And yet by design it is intended, the question to you is, why should those who are 'good' have nothing left to do, the ask for nerfs, where does it end.

    You say the plead of those struggling, what about the plead that want to keep the content intact that they do, do you think its better in your opinion to give them nothing and only those that struggle everything?

    The people doing this content are doing it by design and intent, and another question, what is so wrong asking the playerbase to get better, why is this such a awful thing.
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  3. #363
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    Yeah exactly. People play lol even though the community is toxic, don't you find that funny ? (it's not much better on FFXIV actually)

    Also, even though SE gives you the number of FFXIV's account, they don't give you the actual number of subscribers. Based on the number of viewers on twitch FFXIV is currently faring roughly as well as TESO (also a F2P game).
    XIV isn't a very "streamable" game. Progression isn't particularly fun to watch for people who don't play the game. On the other hand, mobas and fps games are easier to understand for non-players.
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  4. #364
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    And yet by design it is intended, the question to you is, why should those who are 'good' have nothing left to do, the ask for nerfs, where does it end.

    You say the plead of those struggling, what about the plead that want to keep the content intact that they do, do you think its better in your opinion to give them nothing and only those that struggle everything?

    The people doing this content are doing it by design and intent, and another question, what is so wrong asking the playerbase to get better, why is this such a awful thing.
    Because it is bad design and blocking a major story arc that is closely tied to the much more casual friendly Main Scenario and Crystal Tower storylines.
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  5. #365
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar View Post
    Because it is bad design and blocking a major story arc that is closely tied to the much more casual friendly Main Scenario and Crystal Tower storylines.
    There are almost no parallels to the main story, crystal tower and coil story line. Especially the main story vs coil story there is almost no interaction or cross over at all between the two. You would think there would be since some of the same characters are involved but it is like each story is in its own little bubble.
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  6. #366
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    There are almost no parallels to the main story, crystal tower and coil story line. Especially the main story vs coil story there is almost no interaction or cross over at all between the two. You would think there would be since some of the same characters are involved but it is like each story is in its own little bubble.
    I agree but I still think that coil story should have been achievable to everyone the same way as they plan it with alex easy and alex hard, if they added some easy coild they wouldn't have to nerf normal coil (which won't be enough and isn't enough already for some people anyways).
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  7. #367
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    I agree but I still think that coil story should have been achievable to everyone the same way as they plan it with alex easy and alex hard, if they added some easy coild they wouldn't have to nerf normal coil (which won't be enough and isn't enough already for some people anyways).
    At this point they aren't going to go back and "add some easy coils" though, and the fact that T5's mechanics remain largely intact tells me that the gatekeeper turns aren't going to get further nerfed. The content is soon to be completely oudated (because you don't need to do Coil in order to do Alexander) and they've already got enough going on with the Heavensward launch. They released the T12 cutscene in the "Flames of Truth" video, so maybe more of it will follow.
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  8. #368
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar View Post
    Because it is bad design and blocking a major story arc that is closely tied to the much more casual friendly Main Scenario and Crystal Tower storylines.
    Bad design is questionable, I dont think it is, even WOW had some story in its raiding.

    So the question to you is, why do you think its fine that the raiding community needs to be the ones that has to have content they do taken away, nerfs is taking away content from them since if you nerf one content, where will it end. Take Pharos for example, ever since that got nerfed, the following dungeons have been made easy so it does affect us.

    All you seem to be asking for is the plead for the struggling side and yet spit on those on the other side, what makes you think you are more important?
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  9. #369
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTofu View Post
    troll post...
    I have an opinion. Therefore I'm a troll

    Impeccable logic.
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  10. #370
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    those people who can devote time towards a static however that is a dwindling percentage of people who can do that, as many of the players have jobs, families, etc.
    You do not need to be a student, unemployed etc to be in a static. Our static, near all of us work, 2 of them are full time teachers. Have families. All those things you say detract from the possibility of joining a static. And, even with our random schedule of when we can raid each week due to RL responsibilities changing the days available we have cleared all content. Yes, it took us longer than many statics, but we weren't racing.

    If you are aiming for world/server firsts then a lot of time in a short period is needed, if, like us, firsts don't matter. Then being part of a static with RL responsibilities is entirely feasible.
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