Why I have no interest in Coils more specifically, T9.

[GenJoe]

Well truth be told, coil being the end-game raid of all end-game raids.. There's no reason for SE to tone it down to let all the playerbase have access to it.

It's bound to take lot of effort, if your work irl takes priority, then by all means, you'll simply be missing out. OR be forced to tackle it with a PUG and take your chances.

My personal gripe with the game isn't the design around coil, coil can stay the way it is, something to study over and over, step by step, and eventually conquer it then just faceroll the crap out of it to farm for gear etc.. That's a typical raid model of MMOs anyway, if you're expecting something different, that's too bad.

My problem is that anything beyond lv 50 HM seems to be built around that very same design.. I don't mind putting together a static to get through coils, rather, I usually opt out of it because it doesn't intrigue me and that's fine also.. But why are all the extreme primals built around the same mechanics which takes multiple wipes and keeping notes to beat? Those should just be a test of physical skills (reflexes, muscle memory, multitasking etc.) to either promote people who're a liability to go the way of pre-mades, or perhaps forcing people to learn a thing or two about optimizing their play style... Sometimes I wonder if they're even using the extra hotbars, or if they've even bothered to rebind hotkeys to their liking.. Hell, I'd bet most of them are clickers even.. It's just insanely annoying to see people in Tex that still move like they belong in Satasha.. Game should've guided them to improve their playing, not their studying skills.

[Zumi]

Echo and nerfs may be coming next Tuesday, because the don't schedule Eternal Bond updates is saying don't sechedule one next week around that day. 1st and 2nd coil got nerfed / echo 2 weeks after it was put in DF too.

[Noutaja]

Couldnt agree more with the OP. Every word right on point. Hopefully the new raid in heavensward offers something drastically different than what coils ever offered.

[Snitchie]

in short this is what its like to fight an AI (npc). If boss does this you should do this. And if you do this the boss responds with that.
If the bosses where controlled by humans . then the OP would get what he/she wanted :P ( but this isnt the reality in ff14 )

So either you do it as they build it , or you dont do it. simple. And if all the encounters could be done on first try, ppl would become bored and leave the game. So there is a fine line here to adjust. Not an easy task , but so far I think SE is doing a great jobb regarding endgame boss encouters. compared to other PVE focused MMO's

[Mercutial]

Give Silent Abyss a gold star. They are absolutely right about LS's. And on this note, if you don't believe yourself to have enough time or a steady schedule to join a static, start a Linkshell. Or join one of the MANY endgame LS's on any given server. I've started a few myself. And while a static is generally the focal point for my endgame LS's, it allows us to pull from a variety of subs as well as build the groundwork to form multiple statics among these individuals. Get out there and network.

[Ayrie]

T9 is easy in the same ways T5 was and even Titan HM back when.

When you step into that fight it will blow you away. I never wanted in that place ever again after my personal fails that night.

But I went back... I STUDIED so that I could understand what I experienced... and I did A LOT better. But then there was problems with golems. Again studied and had plenty more exp in phase 1.

Process repeated itself all the way to hot/cold and divebombs. And then viola, we dropped her.

There was a lot of personnel changes, mostly due to people not having tenacity (wanted it done without doing the work)... and instead of throwing our hands up in disgust and shattering the static, we replaced. And replaced. And replaced. And our static in final coil is much better now for it.

Moral is: it takes effort to do it. Nerfing it won't make it easy clear. It is not designed that way. You'll need to put forth genuine effort.

[StrejdaTom]

... I STUDIED ...

As OP already said, he doesn't want to study, he is not in school, he wants fun.
If you have to memorize anything, it is not fun and it has nothing to do in game.
FFXIV should be one long corridor and every boss should have manual (how to kill it) above its head.

Sorry if I missunderstood anyone, that's what I got from this thread.

[Ayrie]

As OP already said, he doesn't want to study, he is not in school, he wants fun.
If you have to memorize anything, it is not fun and it has nothing to do in game.
FFXIV should be one long corridor and every boss should have manual (how to kill it) above its head.

Sorry if I missunderstood anyone, that's what I got from this thread.

Don't the gold saucer mini-games have guides to beating them slapped on them? I'd say that may be more appropriate than Nael.

But Nael has some awesome music... And heavensfall is impressive eye candy.

I kid, though. It is a fun and rewarding fight (not gear wise reward, the satisfaction of watching her die the first time).

[Wournsfeik_Untawhasyn]

I kid, though. It is a fun and rewarding fight (not gear wise reward, the satisfaction of watching her die the first time).

I believe everyone has the exact same reaction when they clear T9 for the first time.

[Neuflune]

I believe everyone has the exact same reaction when they clear T9 for the first time.

I found it rather shocking that it was actually a he.