selling coil runs and primals

[ExKage]

I think the point is that you're vilifying people over a very arbitrary set of ethics. It can be turned around that you're being a self-righteous prick helping people under the cover of being "altruistic". An attention seeker. You want to do it to feel good about yourself. You don't do it because you actually want to help, the main reason is because you want -other people- to see you doing it and think "wow this person is so nice! They're not like those 'evil' mercs who want to charge us for helping!"

I am not saying it is the case; I'm saying it can come across that way when you start to burn people. You keep equating selling runs with RMT and it is not. Get off your high horse. Whether you do it just for the hell of it, to help friends, or for profit, the motivations are not 'worth more'.

[Kosmos992k]

I think the point is that you're vilifying people over a very arbitrary set of ethics. It can be turned around that you're being a self-righteous prick

That's it, I'm done here. I'm not playing any more, I've said my piece and I'm tired of defending myself against the most ludicrous attacks and comments. I know you're not directly calling me a self-righteous prick, but that is the implication of what you wrote. I'm not going to reply any more, I'm not going to be baited any more. You can all have a big monetarist hug and count your piles of gil.

[Mercutial]

But... but... but... people only buy clears so they can watch cut scenes, right? RIGHT??
Gimme a break. Want the "prestige" with none of the work. Maybe a nice shiny. Not trying to crap on the clientele of any run-sellers here. But the stigma is real.

[Ophie-Mio]

I have been in farm parties with individuals who I knew for a fact bought a clear for previous content. These farm parties did not go so well. My point being that a bought clear is VERY misleading to those who run with the individual in later content.

And I've been with people who had bought their T9 clears to do FCoB and then later farmed it with me and were the best of the bunch. >___>
You can't take a sold clear player and just always assume that they are bad. Bad exists on both ends of that spectrum. People who cleared it with their tanks calling out everything are just as horrible as people who paid to clear and felt they could return to said content with no practice.

The people who actually went back and learned it though, awesome. They had to deal with the fact that no one could clear that fight despite all the practice and they did what worked. They wanted FCoB so they bought the service from people who could easily clear it.

Personally, I don't care if people buy clears or what. I bust my head against the wall enough times to hate the content that I do and finding a group of stable players to farm something is just dumb sometimes. I'd rather pay to farm T9 than go back and help anyone else with it. If anyone wants to steer clear of the battle content, then that's their choice. They going old-school since the game once boasted that you never had to do any battle content on a battle class.

Stigma is in the eyes of the player. I've seen people who bought their clears winning at the content that they bought later and I've seen people who legit won the fights and were garbage during it.

[Kaze3434]

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to piggie back off this, sometimes, someone is paying for 7 other people that also know how to do a fight, not paying for the clear.

[Mercutial]

I understand that there are exceptions. I also understand that they tend to prove the rule. Maybe it's a generational thing?? I don't know. However, I would hazard to guess that most individuals brought up during the 8-bit heyday would never think twice about buying a clear. Playing for the challenge of it and all that jazz. And yes... finding seven others equally up to snuff is part of that challenge. And with the social tools SE has put at our disposal, not as difficult a challenge as some here would have you believe.

[Mercutial]

I would say because people that help with clears generally take some time to go over mechanics and have the helped individual participate. People who sell clears apparently ask the same individual to go stand in the wall of death so the "professionals" can do their job.