Gameplay lacking excitement?

[Maero]

Blm you have to learn to minimize movement to keep your dps up, (more movement = less dmg you know) one can only truly know this when you begin to do end game, were as some fights you have to move alot and not actually "just stand there" so i agree with Sentinillia. And actually once you get blm to 50 you do stack more Fire and we still use transpose in rotations. The odd times you may get a Firestarter proc under Umbral Ice you should transpose to be back in AF otherwise you would be gimping your dps.
For the most part it is true about just hitting buttons, the only one somewhat more complex i would say is Ninja. Classes were as moving does not affect damage will always be easier for most players, so maybe as others have said try Monk, Ninja or Dragoon.
As for sideskills, again sorry but level a class fully to 50 and you will see that some skills are actually beneficial levels 35+
Mantra for example is a level 50 ability from Monk in which i have both for my Bard and Ninja

[Judge_Xero]

Yeah. Those suggestions are more for Action Style MMOs.
Not going to work in FFXIV.

This game may not be for you OP, if you prefer Tera/GuildWars style gameplay.
Get to 50 - Beat Titan EX.

[Ultear_Milkovich]

You dont know a single thing about BLM and already diss the job? Nice one.

Try to sustain 570+ DPS in T10 as BLM while doing mechanics and dodging stuff. You ll see this is another story.

You seem not to be aware about how SSP affects your GCD & what rotation to use (if you still tranpose on a single target at 50 i have realy bad news for you).

I would suggest you to actually try the job before pooping on it. Feel free to dig into Puro's AWESOME spreadsheet.

Our job definitely dont deserve another "lol blm sucks fire fire ice" guy.

[TheKingSlayer]

This game starts at lvl 50. The wonderful thing about this game is you can easily lvl and try all jobs/classes. Go and try them all. If you want fast pace GCD? Try monk or nin. You think the game isnt challenging? Just try Binding Coil of Bahamut T5 or Titan Extreme. These were the hardest end game content 12 months ago... and these sort of fights "gear lvl" dont mean squat. You want a time consuming activity to do? Go get your relic from Zenith to Zeta.

There is so much that this game offers and you havent even started. Its unfair to judge the game by only playing the first 5% of it (and 5% is being generous). I feel like FFXIV is my girlfriend and I have to defend her from someone who just called her fat lol! FFXIV has a rocking body and huge cans

[Tsilyi]

Mudra for example is a level 50 ability from Monk in which i have both for my Bard and Ninja

o.O do you mean mantra at 42? I am now envisioning my bard firing off Raiton.

[Maero]

o.O do you mean mantra at 42? I am now envisioning my bard firing off Raiton.

Yeah sorry it is level 42, i leveled Monk to 50 specifically for it, while it may not seem useful it actually helps out the group and for every bit one can help the group then i will use it. And wow not sure why i typed Mudra i guess i was thinking of Nin earlier but you know what i meant, sheesh
lol actually Ninja is the one class that does not have cross class skills useable for other classes

[Phr3nic]

I don't feel like adding in a ton of quotes from all the responses, so I'll write a general answer covering the main arguments that have been said.
Actually, first I want to say that I also think the game is fun, do not get me wrong, there are just times where I'm like "ugh, wtf, that's all?". I play with friends, we have a good time and all and I can't wait to hit 50 so I can play with all of my guildies as well (and conquer my main goal, getting to "beat" endgame content, of course).


Several of you said that it will get harder with endgame. Does that mean as soon as endgame? No increase over the course of 1-50, like "lighter" boss mechanics or something? I'm used that after the first levels dungeons gradually get a bit more challenging so one will not be completely thrown off when level 50 arrives and dungeons are like "BAM, HEAVY MECHANICS THAT'LL WIPE YA!".
So, what am I to expect, will it rapidly pick up at 50 or slowly get there during the later levels?


Regarding me playing BLM: That is just something I picked up from other MMOs, I just usually play as the mage, so when I started with FF14 I thought "Blackmage it is then!" without checking on how difficult/hard hitting the classes are. Since some people already made suggestions, I'll just use this oppurtunity to ask: I will probably finish with my BLM to 50 first and see how things will go, but the whole thing about a different class sounds very intriguing and I will definitely consider it, so what class should I pick up in that case? Which one's are challenging and ideally have high dps. Or maybe I should ask about potential, as in "if played well, damage will just skyrocket". Get my meaning? 'Cause it'shard to put into words.

So far I've heard MNK, DRG, NIN. Anyone care to give a quick overview or compare these classes? I'd be grateful.

I know one thing. Whatever class I'm playing as, I love to see someone using Flare.

Care to explain?


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EDIT: Woah, didn't even see page 2, so here are some follow up answers:

You dont know a single thing about BLM and already diss the job? Nice one.
I would suggest you to actually try the job before pooping on it.

You didn't even thoroughly read my posts and still rage? Nice one.
As I said two times previously, I have not yet reached endgame and am well aware of the fact that it will pick up. I do not mean to bash BLM, as I like the class and think the concept of having to switch between high DPS/high manaburn VS low DPS/manareg is actually quite neato. To put my first post into one sentence: "is it only me or is pre-endgame quite boring, because so far it seemed like a long strechted tutorial to me?"
I would suggest not stopping to read after the first few lines before you lash out.

Yeah. Those suggestions are more for Action Style MMOs.
Not going to work in FFXIV.

Ye, I know they aren't. As I said in a previous post, it's impossible to change the whole gameplay mechanic just like that, it would throw everythign of and change the game immensely. That's why I also suggested something like shortening GCD/casttime, just to make the whole thing a bit more fast paced (once again, maybe endgame is faster, I do not know yet.)

[Maero]

Well if you want to continue on with blm, Quelling and Raging Strikes are pretty much must have cross class abilities from bard. Blm are able to build up large amounts of agro if not careful. Ninja, Monk and drg are all mellee classes each with it's plus and weaknesses. Monk is about stances and keeping your greased lightning up, Ninja you must also refresh Huton bellow the 20 second mark as your dps drops significantly and dragoon is buffs, debuffs, jumps, etc. I cannot comment much on Monk as i have not touched it since leveling it to 50 but dragoon can buff the damage of Bards as example, Ninjas bring group utility. All 3 classes are close damage wise and there is a constant arguement on which of the three is highest overall dps.
And i think what Wizardry means is he likes the big kaboom sound and animation perhaps of blm using flare?

[Waliel]

Care to explain?

BLM skill; A big flashy ball of fire.

[Wintersandman]

So far I've heard MNK, DRG, NIN. Anyone care to give a quick overview or compare these classes? I'd be grateful.

So don't hold this as 100% accurate since I have leveled them and played them somewhat endgame but I am far from being a pro.

Monk - Monk has the most complex rotation when including positionals and done right you can have the highest single target dps (depending on other dps skill level). To me this is the best melee class out of the bunch in regards to enjoyability. You have more movement and once you get your buffs up you will have big hits. I would like to get the Ironworks weapons for both Monk and Dragoon. The downside is AoE is lacking for the most part. What I have seen most monks do is tab target between the marks. Buffs are key!!!

Dragoon - Dragoon imo has higher damage numbers out the gate and the rotation doesn't feel nearly as complex as Monk. It still has positionals but they aren't as impacted as Monk. The jumps are nice for gap closers and the variety of abilities is phenomenal. AoE is improved over monk and the abilities don't feel clunky for the most part. From my experience I have more TP issues on Dragoon than I do Monk.

Ninja - Ninja is fun has good burst damage and can compete with Monk for highest single target damage. The AoE is decent once you get high level but the biggest complaint I have is mudra lag. I have hit all the buttons perfectly and I will get the wrong Mudra. So this is the reason why Nin is on the cut list for me. If you no issues with lag you may enjoy Nin more than myself.

All in all, every melee class has good dps and all are competitive since great dps for each class will be determined on the skill level of each player. These are just my opinions.