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    Feature requests: adjust Cutscene Skip feature

    Those things were around a little, but maybe better talk about?

    Problem is, summarized:
    To enjoy FF as a story you will see them. But some duties are so long on their cs, that it is not uncommon see people unhappy about wait new players enjoy them.
    Lets immediately take the Inn out of options, because:
    • it have NOT all cs of all duties (will be fixed? yes, no, maybe. But today it have not)
    • see cs there, is like reading a book skipping pages (imho)

    What it can be a possible solution, is:
    1. have the text bubbles automatically advance themselves after a reasonable time to read them. It already happens here and there, so I guess will not so difficult to have it happen always, to avoid afk or troll-locking;
    2. have a duty's CS to skip only when everyone in the duty have chosen toskip it (remember GW, mates?);
    3. have an adeguate bonus for each CS have been viewed in the duty. This makes everyone happy. I expect a 5 minutes cutscene have much more bonus than a one minute one
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    Hmmmmm ok while this may seam like a good idea at first I need to ask you something.

    Are you trying to encourage people to boot new people?

    No way will we ever be rewarded by watching a Cs and this would cause a bigger problem because yes people will kick the new people.

    And the inn dose have all the Cs from the last 2 dungeons in the main story their just separated a bit and jumbled between main quest Cs and duty Cs.
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    Personally I would like to see a "watch all" button in the journal, so I can watch all the cutscenes belonging to one quest/dungeon in sequence without interruptions. It would be the next best thing to actually being allowed to watch them in-dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    it have NOT all cs of all duties (will be fixed? yes, no, maybe. But today it have not)
    It does indeed have them all. they are not 100% sequential, however. Some are considered main scenario cut scenes, while some are instance-specific cut scenes, and are sorted as such.

    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    have a duty's CS to skip only when everyone in the duty have chosen toskip it (remember GW, mates?);
    DF is meant to have zero restrictions ever. The only case I can see this as valid is if it was a preformed party in PF, with the tag (no skipping cutscenes) active. If you enforce this as a general rule, say goodbye to veterans helping speed up queue times and knowing useful strats to help along progression.

    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    have an adeguate bonus for each CS have been viewed in the duty. This makes everyone happy. I expect a 5 minutes cutscene have much more bonus than a one minute one
    They tried this. More bonus = more incentive to clear fast, for efficiency. It will not make a positive difference at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dererk View Post
    Hmmmmm ok while this may seam like a good idea at first I need to ask you something.

    Are you trying to encourage people to boot new people?

    No way will we ever be rewarded by watching a Cs and this would cause a bigger problem because yes people will kick the new people.

    And the inn dose have all the Cs from the last 2 dungeons in the main story their just separated a bit and jumbled between main quest Cs and duty Cs.
    Your sentence does not makes any sense anywhere.

    No way will we ever be rewarded by watching a Cs
    It is a proposal, you decided it will never be implemented? Didn't knew you are the SE's chairman.
    Edit: on second tought, it already is implemented: the new player bonus, that you lose if you kick him. Make that bonus distributed only on cs view, maybe incentivate to avoid all that attitude of "skip cs or gtfo" a good number of players have.

    and this would cause a bigger problem because yes people will kick the new people.
    Starting from a false assertion, you can conclude anything. That is called "logic".

    yes people will kick the new people.
    YOU maybe kick them, don't talk for everyone. I will not. If people thinking as me, the problem does not were to exist from the start. We are, instead, because there is people that act as you said.

    And the inn dose have all the Cs from the last 2 dungeons in the main story their just separated a bit and jumbled between main quest Cs and duty Cs.
    Even if that true (is it?...), watching cs at the inn is still pretty lame and does nothing have to share with the feeling to make the duty within. I guess I'm not alone on thinking this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    (the Inn,ndr) It does indeed have them all (the cs, ndr). they are not 100% sequential, however.
    That means, watching them messed up is fine, as long as they exists. Cannot agree

    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    If you enforce this as a general rule (forcing cs, ndr), say goodbye to veterans helping speed up queue times and knowing useful strats to help along progression.
    All those veterans are the reason we are talking of the problem. That sounds as "do as we want or gtfo, we are the pro and you are the carried". No, thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    More bonus = more incentive to clear fast, for efficiency.
    You got the problem. Some people looks at new players just as a bonus resource for farming, But those noobs don't have to get in the way, watching cs and slow your speedrun, right? I got your point. Cannot agree, again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
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    The only thing your "solution" will do is inflate the queue times for story dungeons as vets move on to more efficient content to grind. It's also a dead horse because SE hasn't added long cutscenes in the middle of their dungeons since Praetorium. If a dungeon has a story-related cutscene now it's usually at the very end when you've already cleared the duty specifically to avoid problems like this.
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    SE probably needs to separate cutscenes a bit more. Like, if there is a long cutscene upon entry to a dungeon, why not send us to the dungeon entrance to watch that cutscene before we queue up? That way, people can take as long as they wish because they're not in the dungeon. Obviously, exit cutscenes can be as long as needed. Cutscenes within the dungeon may need to be kept short, but I think just being able to watch the entry cutscene before you enter would go a long way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMuse View Post
    Personally I would like to see a "watch all" button in the journal, so I can watch all the cutscenes belonging to one quest/dungeon in sequence without interruptions. It would be the next best thing to actually being allowed to watch them in-dungeon.
    That makes sense. Maybe some "You now have faced and defeat XXXXX" between them, to replace the boss battle you have in the duty, just to make some sense when you see all of them attached. It is much better than how things are now, for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    The only thing your "solution" will do is inflate the queue times for story dungeons as vets move on to more efficient content to grind.
    If you want grind tomes, DF is the least efficient mode to do it. Pro grinders will premade and farm 1st and maybe 2nd boss of some duty. See Brayflox of the old times, as example.
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