Abandoning a Duty? Just Stahp...

[Freyar]

Look, I get it. Stupid people do stupid things... but how the hell are we supposed to get this stuff done if people just poof after the first wipe? Been stuck on T5 for many months because one wipe happens, people bicker, and then they get offended and leave.

Come on, it's a long queue even for healers. Stahp.

[Elusana_Celah]

Behemoth has T5 on farm for the most part. You can party finder requesting a clear and saying you got sol bonus, 80% chance you get a clear group :P

T9 clears the same way are about 40% chance.

Duty finder seems to fill people with a "don't care" attitude. They don't know who you are and have no reason to care so entitlement settles in and "screw this you all suck" settles in too. I sometimes solo queue for T9 in DF just for the lolz because I have over 40 T9 clears and am highly skilled at the fight. I just hang out there watching people bicker, people ragequitting out. It's literally the same as watching two 8 year olds arguing in a playground LOL.

I should also mention that none of them are interested in any advice I may have regarding the fight :P

[SpookyGhost]

Yeah, you'll want to PF T5 if you're not having any luck in DF.

[Freyar]

It's going that way. It'll be group only. Very disappointing, really.

[Kotemon]

What really bugs me is when you check that box to join an existing party only to realize 2/3 bailed in under 15 minutes. It creates a queue trap for any one searching with the same settings to join a dead party. Leaving them no choice but to wait until it passes the 15 minute mark to abandon it or to leave duty early. Not to sure if leaving an active duty could result in a penalty on DF.

[kyuven]

What really bugs me is when you check that box to join an existing party only to realize 2/3 bailed in under 15 minutes. It creates a queue trap for any one searching with the same settings to join a dead party. Leaving them no choice but to wait until it passes the 15 minute mark to abandon it or to leave duty early. Not to sure if leaving an active duty could result in a penalty on DF.

If you join an unfilled group that's bailing, just leave. The penalty only exists for leaving full groups.

[Werhusky]

If you join an unfilled group that's bailing, just leave. The penalty only exists for leaving full groups.

If I get in those empty duties I simply wait for the 15min to "abandon" to delete the duty so noone will get it anymore and the space in DF is open again.
To OPs question... I see the point but on other hand I enjoy with my static when we lack someone DF randoms... unusual setup one chooses up to 5 duties and we go 3 wipes (15 min) or one clear.... so when our drg is healing and the monk tanking and out maintank is on DPS could be we mess a lot (considering T9 where we didnt get a DF clear yet) :S

[LalaRu]

If you join an unfilled group that's bailing, just leave. The penalty only exists for leaving full groups.

Too bad the DPS have to restart their queue wait. Wish you need wait at least 5 minutes before leave without penalty if you get added into an incomplete party.

[KyteStones]

One thing that's really irking me lately... is I queue up for Shiva EX in the DF to teach my wife how to do the fight. She's been doing great and she has about 4 clears and I have it on farm so naturally when I go into a DF for it, I'm not expecting perfection, but I'm expecting some patience and the willingness to learn. I explain the fights all the time and usually there's always that one guy after the first wipe who refuses to do anything more in the group. He'll stand there and talk trash about whats going wrong *cough* ninja getting hit by Shiva's insta-kill *cough* and proceed to try to blame and shame people who are struggling but adapting.


I went through about 5 DF runs last night, and got them all clears with explaining the fight, what to do and how to fix problems and bounce back. My whole 4th hotbar is macros for this stuff.

On my last run, we wiped and got the 15% echobuff, and thats when the fight started. The tank kept spinning Shiva around with the insta-kill move and wiping the whole party to which he blamed us and tried to vote to abandon. Mind you we got her around roughly 5%-8% the attempt before. He wouldn't take responsibility and proceeded to blame everyone else for dying. We tried to explain what he's doing wrong only to be met with "you should KNOW the fight by now, this shouldnt be an issue, get it together or else I'll wipe you on purpose". He and his "friend" tried voting to abandon and when they were rejected they started being the most ignorant people I've seen since Titan HM elitists. He was warned and after intentionally wiping us, we vote kicked him. Got a new tank in with full i130, said he'd solo tank and we downed it fast and was extremely nice through out the run.

People need to start having patience in the Duty Finder. If you want it done faster and your way, make a party in the Party Finder. If you come in, wipe, and leave then what was the point? You've wasted not only your time, but 3 to 7 other peoples time.

[Dragoon4life]

yeah that sux I my self paid 700k for a T5 carry group. Not proud of it but after being stuck for 6 months on DF, PF and getting friends with clears. I'm glad I pursued crafting and finishing all my beast tribe quest's. The good ol days when 1 sealant used to be 400k to 500k felling like a balla. So the sting wasn't too bad.