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    Red_Wolf's Avatar
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    Quentin Hood
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    It all comes down to the GC-restriction and long Q's. I've spelled this out on the forums a few times now.

    If they want PvP to be popular then they need to:
    level the playing field by removing GC restrictions
    lower the Q times by removing the GC restrictions

    The only people that have disagreed with removing the GC restriction are the ones that do not actually PvP. I was expecting some PvP QoL fixes in 2.55. Pretty much any improvement would have made me happy. That did not happen. Obviously PvP is not going to be a priority in June when they release 3.0. So I guess I'm done playing for now. SE can enjoy their Japanese fanbase and their American apologists. Maybe I'll check in at some point down the road.
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    Player Buff_Archer's Avatar
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    Buff Archer
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    There was a thread under General discussion recently, asking people- Name content you haven't done. PVP/Frontlines was a very frequent answer, and amongst those responses they were like 50/50 between:
    - Cause I hate PVP
    - Cause of the awful queues

    For every person I know who plays it, I know like three more who dabbled in it but gave up after little gameplay because of impact of GC restriction.
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    Conradus Leviathan
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff_Archer View Post
    There was a thread under General discussion recently, asking people- Name content you haven't done. PVP/Frontlines was a very frequent answer, and amongst those responses they were like 50/50 between:
    - Cause I hate PVP
    - Cause of the awful queues

    For every person I know who plays it, I know like three more who dabbled in it but gave up after little gameplay because of impact of GC restriction.
    Nope, don't believe it. Neither of your samples are any good. One is a self-selected group of respondents who are far more likely to respond if they like PvP. The other is "people you know", which once again is likely heavily biased towards PvP, since that's what you like.
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    Player Buff_Archer's Avatar
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    Buff Archer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conradus View Post
    Nope, don't believe it. Neither of your samples are any good. One is a self-selected group of respondents who are far more likely to respond if they like PvP. The other is "people you know", which once again is likely heavily biased towards PvP, since that's what you like.
    How do you know the extent to what I like, and what I don't? That's just being willfully ignorant. Most people I know don't play Frontlines/PVP, and I met them doing other things.
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    Last edited by Buff_Archer; 04-09-2015 at 12:39 AM.

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    Lorielle Kurayami
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Though one does not add in a feature into the game and neglect it. You might as well not have put that feature in the first place. Now you have to appeal to an additional audience who really do enjoy that aspect of the game. XIV is PVE focused, yes, but that does not mean it cannot encompass other features and expand upon it. Otherwise there wouldn't be things such as Gold Saucer, TT, PVP, etc. And you really can't say that there isn't actually a interest for the PVP side of things. Otherwise these 72 man battles wouldn't exist. Mind you, this is based on GC limitations and not player limitations.
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    At the very least they could fix the roulette rewards for frontline and increase Wolve's Den rewards so that it's on par with Frontline. That's not even a drastic change or adjustment. Just a common-sense hotfix

    the fact that they have not addressed even this simple correction makes me suspect - due to the upcoming expansion - PvP is simply not something any department at SE is looking at, at this time..

    Don't think we'll see any changes until 3.2 frankly.
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    Blubbers Ubbers
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    Faerie
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Xenosan View Post
    At the very least they could fix the roulette rewards for frontline and increase Wolve's Den rewards so that it's on par with Frontline.
    Completely agree on the frontlines roulette, seems like a no-brainer. On the Wolves den rewards I think they make sense as is. They doubled the rewards in wolves den at some point after they released frontlines and if they increase them further it will make win-trading by far the fastest way to rank and gear up.
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    Player Adrian74's Avatar
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    I''''''''l I''''''''l
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    Phantom
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    Fisher Lv 90
    I lack the fact that, in PvP, you require of true skill and reflexes for surviving, unlike in PvE that it is just memorize stuff....

    Hoping that someday they'll give it the importance it deserves... (To be honest, I think only way they'd view a PvP thread is to put it in general section, then it'd be moved to here, and perhaps, readed)
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    Zenmetsu Shogun
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I've played many pvp oriented mmos Aion, warhammer, GW2, and on every forum there are always butthurt ppl who think something is broken, unbalanced, unfair, etc... Deal with it. I do miss ballista and that was the most broke unbalanced pvp I have ever seen, but it was fun as hell.
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    Sohee Kim
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 91
    I hate to say it. But I would eventually stop listening when people begin to complain about things being "OP" when they are clearly not. Like the healers for instance. Out of all the MMO's i've played with PVP. I never played one where players accuse healers of being "OP" when a simple poke could easily interrupt their casts.
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