Is there any way to play the game as DPS? Or just end subscription?

[AlexionSkylark]

It's mathematics. Each group needs 1 heal, 1 tank and 2 DPS. SO, each tank and each healer queueing can only "host" 2 DPS. which means that in a perfect world, there'd be the double the ammount of players playing as DPS than there is of tank/healers.

HOWEVER, in FFXIV we have
- 2 tanks (PLD and WAR)
- 2 healers (WHM and SCH)
- and *6* DPS (NIN, MNK, DRG, BRD, SMN and BLM)

So, yeah, there are much much much more than 2 DPS for each tank or heal. That being, all those DPS need to wait till there's a tank or a heal available for you, quite possibly on a first-come-first-serve basis. So, there's nothing much to be done to help that, short of stimulating people to play more as tank/heal.

maybe Heavensward and the DRK will help with that. Since it's gonna be all the craze

[ZephyrK]

On Gilgamesh, you can expect a 7 minute Expert Roulette queue time as a melee dps right now, which I consider acceptable. There are definitely some trials that can have a ridiculous wait. Low level stuff is horrible, over 30 minutes often enough, and I've waited over an hour before when leveling Ninja was the thing to do.

That "other" MMO figured out how to make DPS queue times tolerable, but it was essentially to make tank classes supermen. Squeenix should just bite the bullet and do the same. I honestly couldn't care less if they did DPS job quality damage, I just want to be able to play the game as the class that suits my fancy in the moment.

[Kosmos992k]

So, yeah, there are much much much more than 2 DPS for each tank or heal. That being, all those DPS need to wait till there's a tank or a heal available for you, quite possibly on a first-come-first-serve basis. So, there's nothing much to be done to help that, short of stimulating people to play more as tank/heal.

maybe Heavensward and the DRK will help with that. Since it's gonna be all the craze

DRK and Astrologian won't alter the reasons why people don't like the responsibility of playing the tank or healer.

[AlexionSkylark]

DRK and Astrologian won't alter the reasons why people don't like the responsibility of playing the tank or healer.

That may be true, but still, the "coolest" new class will be a tank, and historically, new jobs/classes always become the biggest craze for a couple of months or more after they are released. Like when on 2.4 Gridania looked like Konoha village. Sure, most of them will SUCK at their jobs, and quite possibly after a while we'll see the new jobs more evened out. But for a while, at least, this might happen DPS queues.

[Kosmos992k]

Sure, most of them will SUCK at their jobs, and quite possibly after a while we'll see the new jobs more evened out. But for a while, at least, this might happen DPS queues.

You're right, about it being coolest, etc... But this point you made troubles me. We already have enough trouble with people disrespecting all tanks/healers because of the sadly numerous bad apples, but with even more people playing tank/healer just for the queue times it will drag our collective reputations even lower....

[Catwho]

I'm also trying to get my last 3 classes to 50. I've found the 30 minute wait for a daily lowbie roulette is tolerable. I usually grab a shower while I'm waiting if it's later in the evening, or if it's early, get some yoga in.

[AreeyaJaidee]

DRK and Astrologian won\\\\\\'t alter the reasons why people don\\\\\\'t like the responsibility of playing the tank or healer.

Exactly this. It takes a more authoritative type person to tank and usually a more multitasking type person to heal. Why? Because tanking and healing means accepting responsibility and its apparent that our current wait times reflect that the majority of players lack a desire to be responsible or authoritative.

DPS is easy. Gear up, know your rotation, dodge stuff. (Some jobs like BRD and SMN are a bit more situational/multitasking since they technically have support capabilities).

Tanking and healing... Yeah, highly situational and requires more knowledge of mechanics as well as actually dealing with those mechanics to prevent regression.

TLDR;; Que times are long because more inherently lazy ppl than non lazy ppl.

[AlexionSkylark]

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Something really similar happened in World of Warcraft, with the advent of the Death Knight on WOTLK. The end result? DK tanks are stigmatized TO THIS DAY. What worries me more is that they probably won't need you to lvl up a class from lvl 1. Everyone will have access to a lvl 60 tank job easily, YAY. I see it as a real possibility that DRKs will, in the future, have a fame of being bad players that surpass even the Dragoon stigma we have now.

[Ultear_Milkovich]

Another whining post. Ive been playing DPS only for 18 months now and never get pissed by the queues. You just need to find something else to do during the wait: crafting etc. Or try to make friends and go as a full party. The solution is on your hands no need for SE to fix anything that cant be fixed (maths)

[Noshpan]

DRK and Astrologian won't alter the reasons why people don't like the responsibility of playing the tank or healer.

For some, such as myself, it's not that they don't want the responsibility, it's that they have a low level of tolerance for douchebaggery when said douchebags get pissy because the new tank/healer didn't perform perfectly on their first try. So they berate the new tank/healer, even encouraging them to no longer touch a tank/healing class ever again.

I'd love to take up healing and/or tanking, becoming decent at it, I just have a low tolerance for spoiled children.