Why further enhancements to market wards?

[Zetonegi]

You know, Draco, that your opinion is not the and-all, be-all. I happen to be one of the many people who prefers the MW over an AH. With an AH, the prices typically get driven down nearly irreversibly, because everyone can always see what the last one sold for, even if there's none in stock or the other people selling would like to sell much higher. But they can't, because it creates a 'standard' for pricing that--as competition starts--only go down and rarely ever go back up.

First off, you haven't explained what's intrinsically wrong with prices dropping. You don't like it when newer players can actually afford stuff? The only time prices go down irreversibly is during a time of deflation, when more money is being removed from the economy than is being added. Beyond that prices will fluctuate depending on supply and demand at any given moment. Does having a small number by your gil marker make you feel that inadequate? If yes, go to Turkey between 2001 and 2004 and you will enjoy billions upon billions of Iira* On a more serious note, just because you don't have a big number next to your money doesn't mean you don't have a lot. And don't get mad at a better trade system just because it shows the state of the economy last week instead of last month, blame the fact that the game is in a state of inflation or deflation. Simply put if the game is in a state of deflation, there is a low demand for an item, or there is a surplus of an item, prices drop. Similarly, if there is inflation, a high demand for an item, or a low supply of an item, prices go up.

OK enough on basic economics, you have yet to show that an auction house in FFXIV's horrid economy will have the effects you describe or if what you attributed to an auction house is simply an effect of a healthy MMO economy. Similarly, you haven't shown that the wards will not have the same effect as an auction house in a healthy MMO economy.

*Between 2001-2004 1 U.S. Dollar was worth more than 1,000,000 Iira and 1 Billion Iira was worth less than 1,000 U.S. Dollars

[Draco]

You know, Draco, that your opinion is not the and-all, be-all. I happen to be one of the many people who prefers the MW over an AH. With an AH, the prices typically get driven down nearly irreversibly, because everyone can always see what the last one sold for, even if there's none in stock or the other people selling would like to sell much higher. But they can't, because it creates a 'standard' for pricing that--as competition starts--only go down and rarely ever go back up.

Can that not be solved by not having a price history? If I remember correctly from 11, the reason for the price history was because it was a bid system not a buy out system. If they used a more industry accepted ( bieng that most MMO's have moved to this type of system ) system that has a normal bid and a buy out like "e bay", there would really not be a need for price history. Just a thought.

[ZachCero]

ROFL... Dude... <.< I just posted I wasn't defending but stating that my opinion is the same. Stop being a troll when I don't need to defend her. Two people can't have the same Opinion? I mean really dude? If you're trying not to be a troll you're doing a HORRIBLE job.

You want to brag about Being here sense beta? Great? Congratulations?? I've been here to sense Alpha beta, you don't see me bragging about it. What's your point?

You're not alone with playing other MMO's but unlike you, I actually don't feel the need to be the mouth piece of the community to know my feelings are being heard and my suggestions. I don't need to come in and complain about a already stupefied market wards in hopes of getting a AH.

Since you played 11, then you should know exactly what the RMT effects that had on the game for sooo many years till SE Actually took up the cause and cracked down on them so bad that it wasn't feasible to keep buying the game repeatedly sense they got banned every 2-3 weeks.

You can keep digging you're hole and making much more of a troll to yourself but you know what I'm pretty sure we all don't need you to speak for us. Great you read all kinds of forums, so do I but I don't ever remember you being appointed official community mouth piece.

Wow you definitely are pointing the troll finger because someone has a different opinion then you really? Stfu and let people complain or praise how they wish. MW is LAME if you say ne different someone needs some IQ. AH is so much easier then Market wards. The only reason they did MW is to try something different(RMT as well) and it failed. But SE is to proud to let it go down the drains.

[ZachCero]

First off, you haven't explained what's intrinsically wrong with prices dropping. You don't like it when newer players can actually afford stuff? The only time prices go down irreversibly is during a time of deflation, when more money is being removed from the economy than is being added. Beyond that prices will fluctuate depending on supply and demand at any given moment. Does having a small number by your gil marker make you feel that inadequate? If yes, go to Turkey between 2001 and 2004 and you will enjoy billions upon billions of Iira* On a more serious note, just because you don't have a big number next to your money doesn't mean you don't have a lot. And don't get mad at a better trade system just because it shows the state of the economy last week instead of last month, blame the fact that the game is in a state of inflation or deflation. Simply put if the game is in a state of deflation, there is a low demand for an item, or there is a surplus of an item, prices drop. Similarly, if there is inflation, a high demand for an item, or a low supply of an item, prices go up.

OK enough on basic economics, you have yet to show that an auction house in FFXIV's horrid economy will have the effects you describe or if what you attributed to an auction house is simply an effect of a healthy MMO economy. Similarly, you haven't shown that the wards will not have the same effect as an auction house in a healthy MMO economy.

*Between 2001-2004 1 U.S. Dollar was worth more than 1,000,000 Iira and 1 Billion Iira was worth less than 1,000 U.S. Dollars

Finally someone with some IQ, tellem!

[Shikyo]

AH would at least get some people who have left give this game another chance. Nobody is going to return when they know that the MW system that they hated has been slightly tweaked. Also no amount of fixing the MW will ever make them as handy as XI's AH.

Seems like SE's priorities are still all over the place with bikinis and leve tweaks when the real big issues that they have known since the first player poll are yet to be addressed.

I agree with the OP that even telling about plans for these basic features to be added would give a lot of players more faith in this game's future.

I saw a very old article on IGN today "what MMO should you play" and even though the content is ages old I think this one quote sums up XIV's development and public perception of SE's actions really well:

I agree 100% they seem to be worried with crap like seasonal events and the story(which in a mmo few care about) and the major issues get pushed further and further back , this is the games plight.

When SE changes its thinking and stops trying to please its current fan base which is very very limited maybe they will start to make this game a success, until then ppl will continue to quite.

At this point the only ones that play XIV are the ppl that need nothing more from a mmorpg but to be able to craft, thoes that want a fun game dont play FFXIV.

I DO NOT hate XIV it has more potential then any other mmorpg yet but its far from reaching the point that it needs to be maybe after 1.21 around summer of next year ppl will stop logging in shaking their heads and turning it back off after 5 mins. =/

[kwestro]

Give us a Mog House with a built-in AH that has advanced search features. Please end the boring, redundant, and time consuming actions of running back and forth from ward to ward. Selling items is such a chore, and I notice more and more people are selling their goods to NPCs, which means items are hard to find; and if you do find it, it's unreasonably expensive. A lot of crafters are making stuff just for SP. They know it won't sell on the retainer, so they sell directly to an NPC.

[Viridiana]

I like the mw better then the ah. because i get to see what the item im buying looks like. thats a big plus since theres so many types of armor in this game

WoW has a built-in model viewer so you can see what the item you're looking at buying looks like on you *actual* character, instead of some Roegadyn who's wearing god knows what else. It also supports viewing entire sets of armor and weapons at the same time, so you can see the full look on your character before you buy a set of gear. You can do all this from the AH, or from the global chat, if an item's been linked, or from your inventory, or from inspecting someone else. . .

What I'm saying is that the ability to preview clothes, much like the system we're actually talking about, has been done far, far better by others, and really has no bearing on the discussion.

[TonyMontana]

WoW has a built-in model viewer so you can see what the item you're looking at buying looks like on you *actual* character, instead of some Roegadyn who's wearing god knows what else. It also supports viewing entire sets of armor and weapons at the same time, so you can see the full look on your character before you buy a set of gear. You can do all this from the AH, or from the global chat, if an item's been linked, or from your inventory, or from inspecting someone else. . .

What I'm saying is that the ability to preview clothes, much like the system we're actually talking about, has been done far, far better by others, and really has no bearing on the discussion.

+1000000000000000000000

[Orcishgrappler]

Im many games you can see yourself in any item in the AH just by hitting the shift button on the item in the AH window. Not really too much to ask.

[Draco]

WoW has a built-in model viewer so you can see what the item you're looking at buying looks like on you *actual* character, instead of some Roegadyn who's wearing god knows what else. It also supports viewing entire sets of armor and weapons at the same time, so you can see the full look on your character before you buy a set of gear. You can do all this from the AH, or from the global chat, if an item's been linked, or from your inventory, or from inspecting someone else. . .

What I'm saying is that the ability to preview clothes, much like the system we're actually talking about, has been done far, far better by others, and really has no bearing on the discussion.

Yes I really do like the modling system bieng a part of any auction house system. I also would personally like it to be a specific buy out, rather than a bid or blind bid, blind auction type of system. Never did personally like the idea of over paying for a piece of gear in ffxi because i did not increase my bid in small enough increments.