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    Mara Ileres
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    Summoner Lv 70

    Enkindle and Tri-Disaster: Useless as they come.

    [16:12][FC]<Mara Ileres> Fester has a cooldown of 1 minute and deals about 900 damage on my stats.
    [16:12][FC]<Mara Ileres> Enkindle deals 500 [using Ifrit-egi], and has a cast time of 5 minutes.
    [16:12][FC]<Mara Ileres> Something's wrong here.

    And let's not even talk about Tri-Disaster. Suffice it to say, it's the butt of all the jokes.

    Something needs to change. One week before maint. Don't f**k this up, SE.
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    Philia Felice
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    Pretty bad comparison of Fester vs Enkindle ...

    Fester = 300 Potency that can be made 360 with RS, and a bit more with Foe's + pot. Costs an Aetherflow stack.
    Enkindle (from Garuda) = 250 potency AoE which nearly becomes 500 potency with Rouse + Spur, and is also affected by Foe's. Ifrit's Enkindle is 300 potency, even stronger. Free except for its own CD.

    Different purposes, and Enkindle is in fact stronger than Fester due to its AoE and ability to have vastly increased potency. That said, yes it could probably be put on a 2m CD and I don't think anyone would cry foul.

    Tri-Disaster is terrible yes. Only good for savage mode T7 kiting.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 03-25-2015 at 05:33 AM.

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    I wouldn't mind if they made Enkindle run off Aetherflow rather than a cooldown. Would give players an alternative to spamming Bane and stuff.
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    Sariena Adeline
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    Quote Originally Posted by AscendantManes View Post
    I wouldn't mind if they made Enkindle run off Aetherflow rather than a cooldown. Would give players an alternative to spamming Bane and stuff.
    It'd be quite a little OP. Just reduce Enkindles recast by a minute. Let it match BLMs convert cooldown, I dunno.
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    Actually, since Enkindle's potency is less than Fester's in exchange for being AoE, it might be the ticket to making Summoners... generally satisfying to play.
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    Whiston Aglaeca
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    So much is wrong with this thread.

    For starters, Fester is a 10 second cooldown that consumes a stack of Aetherflow. In one minute you can actually use it 6 times with 3 stacks and Aetherflow ready to put up.

    Additionally, allowing Enkindle to be used as a stack of Aetherflow would negate using Fester anytime Rouse is up and be pretty OP.

    although I can definitely get behind having Enkindle cooldown drastically decreased, as the SMN's skills aren't very distinguished as is from ACN.

    edit: I wouldn't say Fester would never be used, but would be far less situational, and not reliant on DOT's being up at all.
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    Last edited by Whiston; 03-25-2015 at 05:52 AM.

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    Alethea Wyste
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    Quote Originally Posted by AscendantManes View Post
    Something needs to change. One week before maint. Don't f**k this up, SE.
    I'm not having my hopes up this time for the next patch cause I honestly doubt anything will change at all. Until Heavensward though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiston View Post
    So much is wrong with this thread.

    For starters, Fester is a 10 second cooldown that consumes a stack of Aetherflow. In one minute you can actually use it 6 times with 3 stacks and Aetherflow ready to put up.
    I was being generous with that. It depends on your playstyle, but 3 Festers a minute for that much damage is fantastic... and also our only burst.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whiston View Post
    Additionally, allowing Enkindle to be used as a stack of Aetherflow would totally negate ever using Fester ever again.
    Its damage output remains dwarfed by... Fester. So in single-target scenarios (i.e. boss fights), you should still use Fester.
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    Avalen Koma
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    Being able to fire Enkindle's every minute, that would be quite a big DPS increase and feel pretty awesome I agree.

    Maybe 2 mins so it lines up with Spur seems a bit more balanced. I'm not expecting any more adjustments though. I feel they may be content at what the last adjustment influenced SMN DPS until expansion.
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    Last edited by Havenchild; 03-25-2015 at 07:14 AM.

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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    I was think about this the other day. It would be a nice buff for Tri-Disaster to work like an AoE Fester where potency is determined by DoTs on target giving SMN a nice burst AoE to help with trash mobs. Honestly CC abilities are only useful in PvP now and that could be added as a PvP ability.
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