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    Credor's Avatar
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    Credor Beeman
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Here is the ideal rotation for AOE:

    Infuriate pre-pull -> Drive-by HS on one mob from one pack -> Maim on another one from another pack -> Unchained/Steel Cyclone + Veng/Thrill -> OP -> Bloodbath + Berserk -> OP -> IR + [Conv] -> OP x inf until pacified, then OP some more if 3+ things are still alive.
    Few things:
    - Steel Cyclone is waste of Wrath, better Unchained + Flash or two
    - ToB and Conv I hold for after-Berserk; this is not necessary on beginning when Vengeance and Bloodbath is working
    Vengeance has 30% mitigation, Bloodbath gives HP return (without 25% penalty and with +50% from Berserk, every OP hit for 180 potency every mob, if mobs are 10, there is 1800 potency and 25% return to WARs HP on every OP)
    On my current gear, 100 potency makes over 200 damage, so every OP on 10 mobs gives 1000 HP back (without crit, Vengeance also not calculated).

    Iagainsti,
    Sitting on Wrath stacks is WRONG method. You can calculate, no 25% penalty from Unchained is better, than +10% chance on 50% (crit).
    Wrath stacks: 10% * 50% = statistic +5% to dmg (Defiance)
    Unchaied: no 25% penalty - this is +30% to dmg (Defiance)

    Wrath stacks must be used, first on Unchained, if not availalble, then on Inner Beast (strongest hit from WARs, 300 potency and always without Defiance penalty). Sitting on stacks means dps loss.
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    Last edited by Credor; 04-10-2015 at 03:23 AM.

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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Credor View Post
    Few things:
    - Steel Cyclone is waste of Wrath, better Unchained + Flash or two
    - ToB and Conv I hold for after-Berserk; this is not necessary on beginning when Vengeance and Bloodbath is working
    Steel Cyclone isn't a waste of Wrath, though I understand why it seems that way since the other use is Unchained.

    Obviously, if you have the choice, Unchained is your best option available. Vengeance + BB is also way better than Thrill + Conv. However, you won't always have Unchained available, especially if trash is separated into two sets or you kill a boss fast enough that Unchained isn't back up. So, in this situation, you use SC. Usually, what I do, is either use Unchained + Veng + BB + buffs or buffs + SC + Thrill + Conv + Turn Defiance off. The latter is a pseudo Unchained, but obviously isn't as powerful due to the lack of Vengeance, however it still does similar damage due to turning off Defiance. While Zerk + Veng + BB is fine, if you're in a situation where you lack Vengeance I don't think it's worth saving Thrill and Conv til after BB wears off. Much better to use it early, turn off Defiance, and get those buffed OPs going.
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