New Jobs Gated Behind Completion of 2.0 Story?

[Kallera]

Maybe certain au ra's looks had them perceived as beastmen, or worse; and Yugiri wanted to maintain a good first impression.

Also, Ninja-things.

[SQBoard]

(In truth we don't know yet, nothing was officially stated. They could pull a Fable and make a quest to give the Main Character the choice to drink a Fantasia to become an Au Ra or not, for whatever reason, during the MSQ. However, common sense says that no, Au Ra race will not be gated.)

Common sense and that they said you can work Au Ra in the new benchmark character creator, which implies you can start as Au Ra.

But yes, they've been very coy about the specifics. I don't know if they're pulling a personal housing pr move and wait till the last minute to reveal more bad news or they're being silent to give themselves room to change things.

I'm hoping for the latter.

[Mirakumi]

Well the fact that they give you a fantasia for pre-ordering, kind of says - here - your going to be able to do this from the get-go.
Just my thoughts on Au Ra

[RygaenYuui]

By default, soon as the expansion is released though LV cap is bumped to 60. Meaning they're already going to give you a handicap to complete all old content required from 2.0t if you haven't done so already.

[Zplinter]

I have a question for all those that say it is okay that the jobs are locked behind Ishgard and it is good lore to have new players have to complete the MSQ up to current to access them:
IF we are going to use the story and lore to make the claim that new players would not know about the new classes, why are we that are current on the story allowed to wander through Thanalan and Ul'dah (and Mor Dhona) unchallenged? According to the lore we are now at the very least hunted by the peace keeping forces in those areas.

The Devs made a decision about how to access the classes. They are the Devs they get to make that decision, weather you and I agree or disagree. To have people cloak it in lore and fudge other parts is a hypocritical to me.
Just a thought and question.

[Kallera]

I have a question for all those that say it is okay that the jobs are locked behind Ishgard and it is good lore to have new players have to complete the MSQ up to current to access them:
IF we are going to use the story and lore to make the claim that new players would not know about the new classes, why are we that are current on the story allowed to wander through Thanalan and Ul'dah (and Mor Dhona) unchallenged? According to the lore we are now at the very least hunted by the peace keeping forces in those areas.

The Devs made a decision about how to access the classes. They are the Devs they get to make that decision, weather you and I agree or disagree. To have people cloak it in lore and fudge other parts is a hypocritical to me.
Just a thought and question.

I do so wish we had at least the rising stones to go smack around some crystal braves. That would just put a smile on my face, plot nonsense be damned.

I also think having the new jobs be behind ishgard with the story in the way isn't a good idea. It looks like a bait and switch.

[SQBoard]

I also think having the new jobs be behind ishgard with the story in the way isn't a good idea. It looks like a bait and switch.

It does seem like the gate is more about logistics or a marketing ploy.

Maybe they don't want every existing player AND new/returning players to flood ishgard for the new jobs so the gate is meant to spread out the players with only the existing ones in the new zones and everyone else will be in the old. Don't like using the server excuse but seems like the big issues always goes down to their crappy server infrastructure.

Or they're trying to jump start their revenue by getting people who want those jobs to start subscribing now rather than later.

[Rbstr]

(In truth we don't know yet, nothing was officially stated. They could pull a Fable and make a quest to give the Main Character the choice to drink a Fantasia to become an Au Ra or not, for whatever reason, during the MSQ. However, common sense says that no, Au Ra race will not be gated.)

However, common sense said the same about jobs, least to me.

Where the WoL is an "outsider" to the current Eorzean realms at the start and Au Ra are people which would conceivably be around the continent, but rare-ish, it makes sense that the WoL could be an Au Ra.
But the jobs and their trainers are simply in Ishguard. It's certainly not common sense they'd be freely available to a new character. Ishguard is closed to outsiders. The WoL, without having gone through the story, is an outsider. No access to Ishguard, no access to jobs which are learned from inside Ishguard.
The WoL has no opportunity to be a Dark Knight, or whatever, until they can meet the people that can teach it to them.

NPC dialog is pretty clear on why you can be in Ul'dah/RT ect. It's an expedient choice by the devs but it's clearly not a plot hole or inconsistency.

[Rumpelstiltzkin]

I have a question for all those that say it is okay that the jobs are locked behind Ishgard and it is good lore to have new players have to complete the MSQ up to current to access them:
IF we are going to use the story and lore to make the claim that new players would not know about the new classes, why are we that are current on the story allowed to wander through Thanalan and Ul'dah (and Mor Dhona) unchallenged? According to the lore we are now at the very least hunted by the peace keeping forces in those areas.

The Devs made a decision about how to access the classes. They are the Devs they get to make that decision, weather you and I agree or disagree. To have people cloak it in lore and fudge other parts is a hypocritical to me.
Just a thought and question.

People like that are the ones who will say SE are doing the right thing regardless, unless MAYBE they themselves are affected heavily. Watch them turn around and change their opinion if SE ever were to actually do it some other way.

[SQBoard]

Where the WoL is an "outsider" to the current Eorzean realms at the start and Au Ra are people which would conceivably be around the continent, but rare-ish, it makes sense that the WoL could be an Au Ra.
But the jobs and their trainers are simply in Ishguard.

Except astrologians exist in coerthas right now.

Go speak to Forlemort in the observatory and ask him what he does there. Also Merlwyb, the leader of limsa uses a gun and the boss of sastasha hm if i remember. Dark knight is the only one i haven't seen yet.

If you want lore justifications, that's two reasons you can easily have an astrologian job contact in coerthas and a machinist contact in limsa.

But anyway, lore is a reason to restrict content but it's not a very good one since lore is just something the devs made up. They can easily make something else up to justify adding content to their lore. Tv shows do this all the time when they feel a certain plot point needs to be explored.

But in ffxiv terms, look what they did with ninja. "Oh Yugiri is a ninja? Guess what, here at limsa we also have a guild that does the same thing...we just chose not to tell anyone until now."

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Also, i know you're the most wanted person in ul'dah if not eorzea but you can go ahead and stand in plain sight in the immortal flames headquarters because not everyone is against you and i'm sure there's absolutely no chance of someone who is hunting you will walk by the front lobby of the institution that wants you dead.

More than likely the main reason for gating it has little to do with confining to lore and more about something else more practical.