Dear SE, is there going to be more to end game than Instanced Raids?

[HoolieWho]

My favorite events from FFXI were small group instanced content: Nyzul Isle and other assaults, Salvage, Limbus and mission fights. So bring on the quality instanced content. I also liked small group popped NMs, and it is nice seeing these in an overworld setting. I would be happy if endgame were made up of diverse, challenging instances and popped NMs designed for small groups (8 people max).

I don't care for large group events. More than a party or two usually descends into mob tactics. I don't get the appeal.

Other than popped NMs, what endgame, non-instanced PvE content do you want? I guess there are people who like to camp NM spawns and fight for claims. Playing the rare drop lottery and cock blocking others isn't fun for me. If this kind of content is in the game, that's fine with me, but if it's not and that drives people away, that won't bother me either.

[Bobjohnson]

If not please tell me now so I can just go ahead and quit.

Raids are fun and all, but if this is the only source of end game content I don't want any part of it. Please just tell us now if you plan to add more than just instanced dungeon raids.. The only end game content you keep saying is, "Another Instance Raid, Another instanced raid, 3rd instanced raid, 4th instance raid.."

I want to see some Sky, Sea, Nyzul Isle, Salvage, Limbus, etc type events.. not just instanced dungeons.. its SO Boring ot just kill mobs up to a Boss and then fight the boss.. give us other things to do... HNM's, Key Item farmed popable HNM's, Instanced HNM's, there is SO much you have done in the past and learned with FFXI.. Why throw it all out? The prime battles are great, but please don't stop there!

I honestly don't see real end-game content like Dynamis and the like being added until all the basics of the combat and job system are done. The combat changes and job system will change so much of the game, and I think it'd make adding that stuff now would be useless, as they'd just have to adjust it after it's all done.

Honestly, I think end-game will come later, after all the problems with the basics of the game are actually fixed. That's more important.

[Fensfield]

1.2 we are getting an open world (public) "dungeon", with more planned for future patches. We also also have NM's which are open world, with more planned.

All I can find with regard to this is from the last producer letter, where it says '1.19: Implementation of a public dungeon for low levels'. That's hardly endgame content nor assurance of more to come (although I am glad of it and would very much like more as such), so..

Care to point me to another mention closer to what you're talking about?

Although, if the response is a mere 'you should be reading Reinhart's translations' I think I'll just take your word for it.

[Wisdom]

I understand the desire for end game. I'm right there with you. But recognize that the developers have just pulled this game from the toilet to turn it into a game that has promise. Give it some time. They've been adjusting the game for the players thus far. When FFXI first came out it wasn't an end game players dream. It took years + expansions to provide all that great content. Even though FFXIV has been out for a year it's just now starting to develop. You should really think of it as JUST COMING OUT OF BETA. I wish it wasn't like that but it is, therefor, I believe your looking at some serious time before we have the end game we desire. I'm sure the Yoshi P and his development team will deliver throughout the life of the game though.

I'm banking in this having great HNM content. Please dev's don't let us down. ^,~

[elreed]

I understand the desire for end game. I'm right there with you. But recognize that the developers have just pulled this game from the toilet to turn it into a game that has promise. Give it some time. They've been adjusting the game for the players thus far. When FFXI first came out it wasn't an end game players dream. It took years + expansions to provide all that great content. Even though FFXIV has been out for a year it's just now starting to develop. You should really think of it as JUST COMING OUT OF BETA. I wish it wasn't like that but it is, therefor, I believe your looking at some serious time before we have the end game we desire. I'm sure the Yoshi P and his development team will deliver throughout the life of the game though.

I'm banking in this having great HNM content. Please dev's don't let us down. ^,~

Yeah i agree with you and with the op. Its gonna take some time to get this game in its proper course and i dont think raids will be the endgame in my op. it will be one of the choices of endgame they'll give us i hope, i really want to see open world events and epic quest chains as endgame too and of course story CS that shows your character in the middle but not as a weakling but as a bad ass character (even saving from death main story npc's lol) we spend to much time with the growth of our character to see them as weaklings example cut scene r46 mission.

As for now i dont know how they are going to marry medieval class system with garleans high technology...

[Sylvari]

As for now i dont know how they are going to marry medieval class system with garleans high technology...

Are you kidding? that's a FF specialty!

[Zenaku]

When SE said there going to be puzzle in the dungeon i thought about Nyzul Isle but that did not happen ; ; i hope we get something like Nyzul Isle.

[Rubicon]

Blows my mind that people think the first two raids are endgame content. This is just the start of ANY content in this game.

[Kirith]

Blows my mind that people think the first two raids are endgame content. This is just the start of ANY content in this game.

It's because Yoshida has only mentioned raids when talking about endgame content and his idea of fun in a mmorpg. Plus all other games that implement raids don't implement "one or two", but a pretty high number of them to suit all the player population and give different challenges, making it the core of endgame and party based gameplay.

The point is not everyone is eager to see FFXIV turn into a RAID-based game.