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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Fortee86Gransz View Post
    What they should of done is given you an adventurer ranking
    And all accumulated experience points from every weapons level levels up your adventurer rank.
    Secondly in combination with this each weapon should have a skill level on it as opposed to the class leveling system.
    In short it should be like in 1.0?

    adventurer ranking = physical level (resulting in to be overpowered with physical level 50 on a class with class rank 5 as an example)
    weapon level = class rank (you earned skill points instead of exp (exp was for physical level) and you learned weapon skills instead of class skills)



    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    "I don't like it" doesn't mean the same thing as "It's wrong". :|
    It was already here during 1.0
    It got changed because people don't liked it.
    It is wrong to bring it back.
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    Last edited by Felis; 04-03-2015 at 07:26 PM.

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    Omegakiyohime's Avatar
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    Sasch'a Maruhime
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    In short it should be like in 1.0?

    adventurer ranking = physical level
    weapon level = class rank
    I was waiting for him to recommend the stamina gauge and the fatigue system.
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    Arias Lightbearer
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    In short it should be like in 1.0?

    adventurer ranking = physical level (resulting in to be overpowered with physical level 50 on a class with class rank 5 as an example)
    weapon level = class rank (you earned skill points instead of exp (exp was for physical level) and you learned weapon skills instead of class skills)

    It was already here during 1.0
    It got changed because people don't liked it.
    It is wrong to bring it back.
    Quote Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime View Post
    I was waiting for him to recommend the stamina gauge and the fatigue system.
    Well, tbh, I never got to experience 1.0, so I may not 100% understand how badly it was implemented. I personally liked much of what I've seen of the old system, though, perhaps if they could have just made it a tad bit quicker and cleaner. I like the Physical Level/Class Rank separation. I like the (idea of the) Stamina Gauge. I like the the way you built up TP and then spent it to power weaponskills, and how combos could actually help you save TP when done right. I like how the gear was wearable by anyone, but had 'recommended' classes that got max benefit out of it.

    Ultimately, there were two things that messed it all up: 1) They released the game without enough testing and polish. 2) MMO gamers don't like 'different.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRogueX View Post
    Well, tbh, I never got to experience 1.0, so I may not 100% understand how badly it was implemented. I personally liked much of what I've seen of the old system, though, perhaps if they could have just made it a tad bit quicker and cleaner. I like the Physical Level/Class Rank separation. I like the (idea of the) Stamina Gauge. I like the the way you built up TP and then spent it to power weaponskills, and how combos could actually help you save TP when done right. I like how the gear was wearable by anyone, but had 'recommended' classes that got max benefit out of it.

    Ultimately, there were two things that messed it all up: 1) They released the game without enough testing and polish. 2) MMO gamers don't like 'different.'
    For the Physical level:

    With the physical level you gained stats points for the character, while leveling up the class/weapon only gave you new skills.

    Problem 1: Stats were character bounded, not class bounded. You can level up THM, put all points into Int, change to MRD and have a MRD with a lot of Int. In ARR the people complain that SMN and SCH share the same stat points. Now imagine how it will be if all classes/jobs share the same stat points. There was a way to reset the stats, but it needed time.

    Problem 2: the difference of power between someone with (as an example) 25/30 THM and 25/50 THM
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    Last edited by Felis; 04-03-2015 at 09:07 PM.