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    The thing is I don't think he will be a leader anymore. I just cannot see how he can fill Nanamo's shoes now that he has killed an unarmed man (although he deserved it), he will be known as a killer, and why would a nation want him as their diplomat when he could just snap like before and kill more people. We already know that Pipin opted to go back to Ul'dah, it could be shown in the opening of the DRK quests, that you have to break him out of jail and he then trains us on the way of the DRK, or in the opening CS of Heavenward we might see Pipin getting him out of jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    2.55 SPOILERS:
    The thing is I don't think he will be a leader anymore. I just cannot see how he can fill Nanamo's shoes now that he has killed an unarmed man (although he deserved it), he will be known as a killer, and why would a nation want him as their diplomat when he could just snap like before and kill more people. We already know that Pipin opted to go back to Ul'dah, it could be shown in the opening of the DRK quests, that you have to break him out of jail and he then trains us on the way of the DRK, or in the opening CS of Heavenward we might see Pipin getting him out of jail.
    They would also need to show us and bridge in some lore to make him proficient in using a Greatsword and Dark magic, because those would just come out of the blue as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    2.55 SPOILERS:
    The thing is I don't think he will be a leader anymore. I just cannot see how he can fill Nanamo's shoes now that he has killed an unarmed man (although he deserved it), he will be known as a killer, and why would a nation want him as their diplomat when he could just snap like before and kill more people.
    Once Raubahn lost it, and realized that he'd been played for a fool, Nanamo was his soft spot, and now that she's gone, and he's labeled a traitor, he's had time to think, I doubt he'll lose control again. And if you noticed, Kan-E-Senna and Merylwyb were both worried, but couldn't act. Looking around the other nations after 2.55, seems like no one is believing the lies, but the "mind my own business" mindset is still there. But, seeing their friend in trouble, i think that mindset won't last in the expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikkori View Post
    Once Raubahn lost it, and realized that he'd been played for a fool, Nanamo was his soft spot, and now that she's gone, and he's labeled a traitor, he's had time to think, I doubt he'll lose control again. And if you noticed, Kan-E-Senna and Merylwyb were both worried, but couldn't act. Looking around the other nations after 2.55, seems like no one is believing the lies, but the "mind my own business" mindset is still there. But, seeing their friend in trouble, i think that mindset won't last in the expansion.
    The thing is the other nation's leaders can believe what they want, but in a Republic system they don't matter, its the people. Regardless if they like him or not there will always be the question of "what if he snaps again."

    Let's just say your current real world political leader snapped and killed someone in cold blood in a dinner gala and you heard about it. He was imprisoned for the crime but was sprung free from jail (either on bail or illegally). He then comes back to serve as your leader once more...would you want to elect him? You have to remember that not all the NPCs in this world are privy to all the information. Yes we speak to quite a few key NPCs who believe there is something wrong, but that is not the vast populace of Ul'dah (if it was then they wouldn't have a problem taking in more people as that place would be considered empty).
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    Let's just say your current real world political leader snapped and killed someone in cold blood in a dinner gala and you heard about it. He was imprisoned for the crime but was sprung free from jail (either on bail or illegally). He then comes back to serve as your leader once more...would you want to elect him? You have to remember that not all the NPCs in this world are privy to all the information. Yes we speak to quite a few key NPCs who believe there is something wrong, but that is not the vast populace of Ul'dah (if it was then they wouldn't have a problem taking in more people as that place would be considered empty).
    Have you ever heard of Andrew Jackson?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Have you ever heard of Andrew Jackson?
    Well I have, but Raubahn murdered someone in cold blood in an area wherein drawing ones weapon is forbidden. Andrew Jackson (I am assuming you are speaking of the same Andrew Jackson who was the United States' 7th President) however, killed people who slandered his and his wife's name in duels, which was a completely different scenario.
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    The new jobs apparently come from Ishgard and require Ishgard access to unlock, so I don't think any of the people mentioned will be trainers nor will they be involved in the quest.
    Estinien, Raya-O, and A-Ruhn are actually the exception so far as far as story NPCs being involved with Job quests, and the latter two are pushing it since they only appear in cutscenes and don't really have any dialogue.
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    Come now, we all know who the dark knight trainer is going to be. We've already met a character that is looking to master darkness, has had it poured into every fiber of his aether, and is just begging to be brought back.

    Nero tol Scaeva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagrom View Post
    Come now, we all know who the dark knight trainer is going to be. We've already met a character that is looking to master darkness, has had it poured into every fiber of his aether, and is just begging to be brought back.

    Nero tol Scaeva
    Touché. /10char
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagrom View Post
    Come now, we all know who the dark knight trainer is going to be. We've already met a character that is looking to master darkness, has had it poured into every fiber of his aether, and is just begging to be brought back.

    Nero tol Scaeva
    Either him (in red armor) or Eymeric (in blue armor) would be fine for me. Anyway we will finally get a trainer who has VOICE!

    The only thing which imo might keep him away from the training is:

    The last time we saw him in CT quest line, he was wearing ALC AF outfit...
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