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  1. #111
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    Taliph's Avatar
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    Taliph Stillwood
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    How many GM's were listed?
    You mean gms that forward reports to the stf? Dunno, didn't count, also irrelevant. The relevant question is "how many listed in the stf" which is 3. The stf, acoording to SE, is the only group investigating RMT. It is the task the "special task force" was created to work on.
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  2. #112
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    The STF was created to help assure players that the issues of rmt were being combatted and that it will not continue to harm the gaming experience.

    People are angry because this isn't being done to satisfaction. It is sad that the running answer to this by the players is social isolation. And if the rampant tell are an indicator that rmt is increasing in turn, it is likely that it is influencing other activities, which mean the stf's efforts are insufficient.

    Meanwhile, the pressures of clearing content and buying things before the expansion mounts....
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    Last edited by Kallera; 04-05-2015 at 07:54 PM.

  3. #113
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    Stubbo Mackenzie
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    Zodiark
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    I finally had enough and moved tells to their own tab and disabled notifications.

    Goldfarmers can continue spamming but I'm not listening any more. It's a shame that the only way to block this crap is to cut off all communications from all players, but in the absence of any actual effective action I'm not left with much choice, I'll just retreat into my little bubble and only communicate with FC and LS members. Way to build a community, devs.
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  4. #114
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    Havenae's Avatar
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    Kaja Vesh
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    How many GM's were listed?
    It doesn't matter how many are listed. Do you think they update the credits every time they hire someone? I seriously doubt they do. What matters is end result. whether its 3 people or 300 people the outcome right now is "not enough". Its not enough because there are tools they could put into place like,

    click or right click -> report RMT/Spam -> snapshot of chat is taken, sent to GM RMT taskforce with a report. Then all they have to do is look and see what it is = /banhammer.

    But we don't have that. They want to use complex algorithms and whatever other methods they employ... Which would be fine. IF they were efficient. They are not, if they were the RMT issue would be getting better, not worse. Thats the point here. Everyone else is discussing how they could go about fixing the problem and all you seem to content to do is argue about how many people at SE are on the job. It isn't important.
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  5. #115
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    Yolanda Freebush
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenae View Post
    all you seem to content to do is argue about how many people at SE are on the job. It isn't important.
    Who's arguing? All I did was make a point that 3 people are most likely not the only ones working on the issue. But people seem content with jumping all over that because I brought up a different view. I like to have all facts before pointing fingers and blaming this or that.

    We can come up with ideas all day long till our fingers bleed. What I personally believe about RMT and how they handle it is just another opinion and assumption. I don't have all the facts, nor do I know what they are actually doing, none of us do. Everything here will just be brushed aside and end up like all the other RMT threads.

    RMT spam is easily ignored. That much I do know.
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  6. #116
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    Wulfyn's Avatar
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    Kuda Dela'mango
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    Behemoth
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    Question is are there anyone working the week ends to deal with rmt? As there has been 2 bots farming ornery karakul all week end preventing legit players from farming mats. 4 player FC that have chocobo companions and appear to be spirit bonding. More thought given to some of the toons names with the exception of chocobos having the same names. Contact Us apparently not working as no new reports even showing up in history. No response while my game enjoyment is being interfered with. Yea, I can see why players are frustrated and feel like nothing is being done. I try to be patient, but seriously 2 days now I have been trying to farm.

    I also believe those selling wins or carries/loot drops contribute to rmt in varying degrees. Who knows? Perhaps some sell gil to the spammers too.
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  7. #117
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    Riepah Redeemer
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    People who think SE is doing all they can:

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  8. #118
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    Ilitsa Samariya
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah View Post
    Yeah and 10,000 new bots have popped up according to reports LOL YAY! Go go gil sellers AND buyers awaaaaaaaaaaaay!
    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    fixed that for ya, only real way to fix the RMT issue, sadly it'll never happen.
    Fixed that further for ya. It won't end until BOTH are aptly gotten rid of
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  9. #119
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    Murah Jhida
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    Again, attacking the demand market is impractical and costly compared to attacking the supply market, which also damages the demand market. Any algorithmic process of detecting and punishing the demand market will cause little to no visible effect due to how versatile and flexible the demand market's processes for hiding itself are, while the supply market uses easily-predicted measures and doesn't even bother trying to hide itself.

    Do you people even economics or do you just want a witch hunt?
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    video games are bad

  10. #120
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    Cael'ureos Heavenscar
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    People who think SE is doing all they can:

    This had to be done.

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    "The world is very different for those who cannot see beyond what is placed before their very eyes."

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