Everyone complaining about no action on RMT, please read

[Eye_Gore]

You can't claim the credits are insufficient evidence unless you can provide evidence that supports your claim... This is how debate works.

I did in another thread.

[Taliph]

I did in another thread.

You provided a list of employees direct from SE? No? That's what the credits are, so you have to provide evidence with those standards to refute.

[Eye_Gore]

You provided a list of employees direct from SE? No? That's what the credits are, so you have to provide evidence with those standards to refute.

How many GM's were listed?

[Taliph]

How many GM's were listed?

You mean gms that forward reports to the stf? Dunno, didn't count, also irrelevant. The relevant question is "how many listed in the stf" which is 3. The stf, acoording to SE, is the only group investigating RMT. It is the task the "special task force" was created to work on.

[Havenae]

How many GM's were listed?

It doesn't matter how many are listed. Do you think they update the credits every time they hire someone? I seriously doubt they do. What matters is end result. whether its 3 people or 300 people the outcome right now is "not enough". Its not enough because there are tools they could put into place like,

click or right click -> report RMT/Spam -> snapshot of chat is taken, sent to GM RMT taskforce with a report. Then all they have to do is look and see what it is = /banhammer.

But we don't have that. They want to use complex algorithms and whatever other methods they employ... Which would be fine. IF they were efficient. They are not, if they were the RMT issue would be getting better, not worse. Thats the point here. Everyone else is discussing how they could go about fixing the problem and all you seem to content to do is argue about how many people at SE are on the job. It isn't important.

[Eye_Gore]

all you seem to content to do is argue about how many people at SE are on the job. It isn't important.

Who's arguing? All I did was make a point that 3 people are most likely not the only ones working on the issue. But people seem content with jumping all over that because I brought up a different view. I like to have all facts before pointing fingers and blaming this or that.

We can come up with ideas all day long till our fingers bleed. What I personally believe about RMT and how they handle it is just another opinion and assumption. I don't have all the facts, nor do I know what they are actually doing, none of us do. Everything here will just be brushed aside and end up like all the other RMT threads.

RMT spam is easily ignored. That much I do know.

[Niwashi]

It's just so time consuming to report it currently that more often than not, I just don't bother anymore and just go on busy instead and I'm sure others do the same. I definitely think making the reporting process simpler, streamlining it, would go a long ways to helping reduce the problem

The lack of reports because most people won't bother is only one of the problems with the current reporting system. The other is that, by having players fill out all the details, it's possible to lie. As long as it's possible to send a false report, every report needs to be investigated before it can be acted on.

If the process were properly automated, with the software itself pulling the message and sender and all the other details it needs directly from SE's system, then the only investigation needed would be to determine whether that message is indeed a violation of the ToS, something which can generally be seen at a glance.

So it's obvious from our end of the reporting system, which is both cumbersome and falsifiable, that the Task Force's end of that reporting system is also needlessly cumbersome. We have a reporting system where it's both difficult to report spam, and then difficult for SE to act on those reports. It's no wonder that the final action is too minimal or too late to be effective.

They need a streamlined automated reporting system and a full sized team that can have someone always on duty to monitor and respond to those reports (as well as spending the rest of their time investigating suspicious activity, since although spam could be dealt with immediately, some of the cheating bots would still take some effort to reliably identify).