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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Just look at this from the most recent action against RMT topic. Almost 11,000 accounts permanently banned....


    Link to full post : http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...e8ebe4f3e86269


    So, next time you're complaining about the lack of action, consider the volume of account bans.
    ^ That's a report that's given almost every month, let alone there's TEMPORARY bans, so that's not really solving the problem.

    There are games (TERA, Vindictus, Blade and Soul) that impose IP bans for other territories because most RMT come from there.
    Other companies like Trion, Blizzard, ANet have filters and report buttons on hand for players to prevent such things.

    FFXIV with over 3million players or so STILL can't seem to get a grasp on how to handle RMT
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    Quote Originally Posted by KodiHivaer View Post
    ^ That's a report that's given almost every month, let alone there's TEMPORARY bans, so that's not really solving the problem.
    No, a new report is given weekly, this just happens to be the most recent one.

    There are 64 temp bans and almost 11,000 permanent account bans, so how are temp bans the issue here?

    Tell you what, go and look at the last 6 months of weekly reports and add up the number of accounts banned. Then come back and we'll talk about the scale of the issue and how much SE can/cannot do. Just for fun, add up the temp bans as well, the number is relatively miniscule compared to the permanent bans.

    Also, the bans are *account* not character bans, suggesting that the number of affected characters could be far higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    There are 64 temp bans and almost 11,000 permanent account bans, so how are temp bans the issue here?
    Those are most likely the buyers. No buyers, no sellers. No sense trying to sell something that no one buys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    Those are most likely the buyers. No buyers, no sellers. No sense trying to sell something that no one buys.
    I could not agree more. Personally I don't think that permanent bans are the most effective way to punish the buyers, I'd like them to do something that causes more pain to the player caught with their hands in the cookie jar. I still believe that de-levelling all characters on their account by dropping all their classes to level 1 and forfeiting the amount of gil that they purchased (or all their gil if they have less left than they purchased) would be one way of handling it since it would force the player to re-invest the time in leveling their classes again giving them time to think about their offense. That's for first time offenders, second time offenders I would ban outright. If they won't do that, then simply permaban the accounts of buyers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KodiHivaer View Post
    ^ That's a report that's given almost every month, let alone there's TEMPORARY bans, so that's not really solving the problem.

    There are games (TERA, Vindictus, Blade and Soul) that impose IP bans for other territories because most RMT come from there.
    Other companies like Trion, Blizzard, ANet have filters and report buttons on hand for players to prevent such things.

    FFXIV with over 3million players or so STILL can't seem to get a grasp on how to handle RMT
    can others confirm this? Is it effective? If so could Yoshi-P explain why these actions can not be implemented here. RMT activity almost killed FFXI before action was taken. It will surely do so to this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizon View Post
    can others confirm this? Is it effective? If so could Yoshi-P explain why these actions can not be implemented here. RMT activity almost killed FFXI before action was taken. It will surely do so to this game.
    If anything this report shows that the problem is getting worse! This is the most accounts I've seen banned. It's getting beyond out of hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizon View Post
    can others confirm this? Is it effective? If so could Yoshi-P explain why these actions can not be implemented here. RMT activity almost killed FFXI before action was taken. It will surely do so to this game.
    I came to this game after being back on WOW for about six months, and I could probably count on the fingers of one hand the number of direct tells from RMT accounts I got in that time. Even in public chat channels it'd be rare to even see one a day, and it was incredibly easy to report spammers so they didn't last long in any event. I've played a lot of MMOs and I've never seen one which is so completely and utterly infested with RMT spam to the point of it being borderline unplayable, Square's attempts to keep a lid on the RMT problem are absolutely laughable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KodiHivaer View Post
    ^ That's a report that's given almost every month, let alone there's TEMPORARY bans, so that's not really solving the problem.

    There are games (TERA, Vindictus, Blade and Soul) that impose IP bans for other territories because most RMT come from there.
    Other companies like Trion, Blizzard, ANet have filters and report buttons on hand for players to prevent such things.

    FFXIV with over 3million players or so STILL can't seem to get a grasp on how to handle RMT
    IP Ban will not work in the global version.
    Or do you want to ban everyone who don't live in JP, NA or europe?
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    Last edited by Felis; 04-03-2015 at 08:19 PM.