Do you guys need Fullscreen Windowed?

[Archadius]

3rd party software must manipulate, damage or interact in some way with the program FINAL FANTASY XIV in order to be in violation of ToS. Asking my operating system to display programs to me in a certain way IS NOT A VIOLATION OF ToS! That's like saying using 2 monitors automatically makes you in violation of ToS.

[MrLion]

3rd party software must manipulate, damage or interact in some way with the program FINAL FANTASY XIV in order to be in violation of ToS. Asking my operating system to display programs to me in a certain way IS NOT A VIOLATION OF ToS! That's like saying using 2 monitors automatically makes you in violation of ToS.

If that was true then Windower wouldn't have had a cease and desist...no matter how you see it, its against the ToS...its not there for your enjoyment...or complaining

[Archadius]

If that was true then Windower wouldn't have had a cease and desist...no matter how you see it, its against the ToS...its not there for your enjoyment...or complaining

The problem with FFXI Windower was that it created a window to using malicious 3rd party tools such as bots, etc. FFXIV already comes with a windowed setting unlike FFXI, which I use. So using AutoHotKey does not create the same issues that FFXI Windower did. I'm not violating the ToS by using a feature that SE implemented themselves. All I'm doing is making my windowed screen (which is perfectly legal with FFXIV ToS) give the APPEARANCE of being fullscreen.

I'm sorry that you have to be 100% wrong, but you are.

[MrLion]

The problem with FFXI Windower was that it created a window to using malicious 3rd party tools such as bots, etc. FFXIV already comes with a windowed setting unlike FFXI, which I use. So using AutoHotKey does not create the same issues that FFXI Windower did. I'm not violating the ToS by using a feature that SE implemented themselves. All I'm doing is making my windowed screen (which is perfectly legal with FFXIV ToS) give the APPEARANCE of being fullscreen.

I'm sorry that you have to be 100% wrong, but you are.

I don't recall mentioning the FFXI Windower....

I was talking about the FFXIV Windower that was made the moment the game was released which was specifically only to make a Fullscreen Windowed and it was still shot down by S-E/

So no I'm not 100% wrong nor did you win any prizes.

[Archadius]

I don't recall mentioning the FFXI Windower....

I was talking about the FFXIV Windower that was made the moment the game was released which was specifically only to make a Fullscreen Windowed and it was still shot down by S-E/

So no I'm not 100% wrong nor did you win any prizes.

I didn't know there was a windower besides the FFXI one. Maybe be more specific next time? The premise is still correct though. You claim manipulating Windows is a violation of ToS, when clearly I'm using the windowed mode that SE staff implemented themselves, all I'm doing is making it so I don't see a border, so I'm not violating anything. Period.

[Griss]

Ya know we kept telling them this would happen back during testing. but did they listen..

[MrLion]

Ya know we kept telling them this would happen back during testing. but did they listen..

I don't recall anyone telling S-E such thing...maybe it was one of those "you know what I'm dreaming of?" topics, that's not telling S-E what was going to happen, that's just telling everyone that the person wanted..

[Griss]

I don't recall anyone telling S-E such thing...maybe it was one of those "you know what I'm dreaming of?" topics, that's not telling S-E what was going to happen, that's just telling everyone that the person wanted..

So you are stating that we old Gard testers did not state point blank to the dev team that the lack of the ability to alt tab from full screen with out the game crashing would result in the creation of third party tools that allowed for that to happen?

You sir are a boob.

[MrLion]

So you are stating that we old Gard testers did not state point blank to the dev team that the lack of the ability to alt tab from full screen with out the game crashing would result in the creation of third party tools that allowed for that to happen?

You sir are a boob.

That is exactly what I'm saying, sir...

[Archadius]

Now FFXIV has boldly gone where no game has gone before.... "Gamma" testing phase lol