[Suggestion] Remove Stamina Bar

[Aldarin]

Limiting Factors

- Each move in the game currently requires the use of a resource:

HP, MP, and TP.

- In addition to these resources we have extra limiters on skills and abilities:

cooldown times, casting times, and animation times.

All of the above mentioned are acceptable and make sense. These are typical with any MMO. The stamina bar adds an additional threshold on abilities and actions that is cumbersome.

casting times and animation times are basically the same thing, so there are really 3 main limits currently. The recast time, the animation time, and the stamina bar. The issue with the stamina bar is that is acts as a universal cool-down timer, which is redundant since the animation times also act as a universal cool-down. Every ability has a recast time, minimum being the animation time, as well as a universal cool-down time, being the animation time. Removing the stamina bar would change little in the current gameplay, but would remove a cumbersome element.

As for auto-attack, there are both pros and cons to an auto-attack system. The biggest issue I see is what happens when people want to use a higher level ability as their base attack. As for meshing with the stamina system, auto-attack would be much easier to implement without the stamina bar, but the removal is not necessary.

[kukurumei]

casting times and animation times are basically the same thing, so there are really 3 main limits currently. The recast time, the animation time, and the stamina bar. The issue with the stamina bar is that is acts as a universal cool-down timer, which is redundant since the animation times also act as a universal cool-down. Every ability has a recast time, minimum being the animation time, as well as a universal cool-down time, being the animation time. Removing the stamina bar would change little in the current gameplay, but would remove a cumbersome element.

As for auto-attack, there are both pros and cons to an auto-attack system. The biggest issue I see is what happens when people want to use a higher level ability as their base attack. As for meshing with the stamina system, auto-attack would be much easier to implement without the stamina bar, but the removal is not necessary.

That's because they spam stack BR, so the stamina bar takes little roll in that.

It is redundant though in the fact that you have attacks, skills and debuffs all stacked on the same bar. TP plays a stupidly small roll in this, as TP skills themselves becomes the odd man out.

It's a really weird system when you dissect it to its theories, as you'll realized so many opposing figures are really stepping on each other's toes from MP, stamina, cool downs, and TPs glooping into one.

Why have cool down if you have stamina, why have TP if you have stamina, why have MP if you have stamina? We don't really know anymore, besides very minor niches. I spam light attack, to get TP, which isn't really worth using due to the lag time, and stamina, while magic is always useful because they take almost no stamina with long casting times to replenish them, then we have to play with cool downs, it's irrelevant when you think about why we have so many "bars".

Basically it's a mess, that'll get magically cleaner if stamina was removed.

Something needs to be done like make skills exclusively auto attack, exclusively stamina and exclusively TP. When you start mixing and matching it really goes haywire.