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  1. #101
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    Oh no weapons allowed huh? Then please tell me this.

    -Picture-

    See BS. SE failed and they know it. I just showed you evidence.
    If Admiral Merlwyb wants to keep her guns, then she will bloody keep her guns.
    The player is not a major city-state leader.

    Besides, your screen just shows that if a character has its weapon, then it's clearly displayed (which was not the case with our character during the 2.55 cutscenes).

    Hiding the player's weapon is not a random thing. It's a deliberate choice.
    We didn't had our weapons and it makes no sense to have them during a meeting with the Sultana.

    Why do you want to hard to believe that your weapon were with you the entire time, but just magically hidden for some unexplicable reason?
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    Last edited by Fyce; 04-03-2015 at 01:40 AM.

  2. #102
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    Robas Kebas
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Besides, your screen just shows that if a character has its weapon, then it's clearly displayed (which was not the case with our character during the 2.55 cutscenes).
    No, It shows that even if they are having a private meeting they had their weapons. This shows the only reason we didn't have our weapons was because of plot convenience with no explanation. Also im pretty sure a guy who has saved the realm twice (one from empire and another if you finished coil) should be able to have their weapon. Everyone trusts you for what you did. Now suddenly our weapons vanishes for this one scene I might add just so people can't say we should have fought back then we run not just run. Also if the matter was so important and we said "I would like to keep my weapon" She would still allow you to keep it because she trusts you.

    Also remember this is MY character. Why would i trust some "lady in waiting" with my Longius Zeta? A Zodiac weapon at that.
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    Last edited by Remus; 04-03-2015 at 04:13 AM.

  3. #103
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    Mimiru Selenar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValyrianBlood View Post
    Hoenstly my first thought seeing the praying scene was 'wtf she wants to commit suicide' o_o
    I obv knew SE wouldn't let Nanamo do this but the whole private audience thing fueld this idea further...am I the only one who thought this?

    BTT since my character is a highlander and in my head from ala mhigo I would have gotten so furious about Ilbred's betrayal on Raubahn and every word he threw on him I would have killed him personally (HOW ABOUT SOME FAERIE DUST IN THE EYES, MOTHERFUCKER)...though i must admit i got a bit scared seeing raubahn going all berserk - i would have joined withhin a safe distance...
    Though I can't see a real reason for her to do it. Stepping down would have been enough. Can't imagine a reason to fake her own assassination and frame me, for it.
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  4. #104
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    Makado Kitase
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    For the people arguing about not having your weapon, it seems the only ones allowed to have their weapons in that area were the political leaders. Even though we have saved the realm and are a hero, we really aren't involved in the political side of things at all. We are the "sword" while they are the "mouth". So it makes sense then that we would not be included in being able to do as we wish in a private political event to me anyways.
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  5. #105
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    Anemone_Valesti's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    If Admiral Merlwyb wants to keep her guns, then she will bloody keep her guns.
    The player is not a major city-state leader.
    Heeeell No! Just no lol. It's because She is a Major City-State Leader that she should adhere to the laws of another Region more than anyone else. Even more so, the rule would be applied more so to the actual Politcal event than just the bed Chambers, and off the bat I can point out more than 3 people who have their weapons on them at that event, and that's not including the Guards or the New group of Backstabbing assholes whose credibility mainly lies on MY/MC/Alph's achievements.

    People need to stop trying so hard to defend that shit lol. If we're pulling Statuses though, The MC Is the WoL as Remus mentioned who saved the Realm on more than one occasion as well as done a great deal of deeds for each of the regions that easily overshadow anything all of them have done together. Where was She when I was getting my faced stomped by Titan, and getting waterboard by Leviathan ? Behind her Desk because she cant fight without getting Tempered. Shoulders hurt from Carrying these people >_<

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    One question I havn't seen raised. Was Momodi in on it too? With telling us to keep a hold of the poison.
    This was the first place my mind went to when Nanamo got Poisoned and fingers were pointed at me because I had the Vial. My eyes narrowed and head turned to the side like I was looking to the Audience and first thing that came from my mouth was ".....Momodi you sonofabitch ".
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    Last edited by Anemone_Valesti; 04-03-2015 at 03:59 AM.

  6. #106
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calis View Post
    Another example would be use of aetherytes. From a game aspect, we can just use them whenever because it's more convenient for the player. But from a realistic world aspect, using aetherytes uses a lot of magic and preparation. Otherwise, why wouldn't people simply use it everytime they're in a bad situation or needs to escape?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=602J...tailpage#t=514

    Of course this was before the fall of dalamud
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    -Snip-
    You are putting words in my mouth (well, actually, this is the second time you do that).
    I never said it was not for plot convenience. I just said that it made sense, and that we didn't have our weapon with us, no matter why no matter how.
    We were just weaponless, that's it.

    Besides, attacking Teledji would have been the stupidest thing to do. Those who don't realize that are just completly clueless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anemone_Valesti View Post
    Heeeell No! Just no lol. It's because She is a Major City-State Leader that she should adhere to the laws of another Region more than anyone else.
    You don't seem to understand the relation bewteen Nanamo and the other leaders if you say that.
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  8. #108
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    It would have gone something like this in my head.


    Teji: I accuse you of regicide!
    WOL: *eyetwitch* You... accuse me of what? You insolent swine. I should twist your head off your body for just speaking those words.
    *Brass Blades step up*
    WOL: Oh, yes, draw steel against the slayer of gods. Even without my axe I can break every bone in your bodies and leave you for the maggots. Throw down your swords and step asside and I will allow you to live.
    *procedes to either slap the s#!t out of the guards, or let them step asside, their choice. Picks up Teji and tucks him under one arm and grabs the handmaiden by the hair*
    WOL: Lets go to the party and see who gets blamed.
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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    You are putting words in my mouth (well, actually, this is the second time you do that).
    I never said it was not for plot convenience. I just said that it made sense, and that we didn't have our weapon with us, no matter why no matter how.
    We were just weaponless, that's it.

    Besides, attacking Teledji would have been the stupidest thing to do. Those who don't realize that are just completly clueless.
    Naturally. Which is why when you go to Gridania or Limsa everyone basically tells you they dont care what the Monetarists say. And when you go to Ul'dah for some reason noone cares to arrest the Sultana Assassin. Even tho she is beloved by the common people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Those who don't realize that are just completly clueless.
    Naturally.
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  10. #110
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    Crysten Kimura
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    Honestly, from the perspective of my character, it wouldn't have gone too far differently from the cutscenes:

    I beat T10-T13 after I finished the 2.5 story, so from a story perspective I beat coil without the Blessing of Light. In that sense, I like to think most of my strength actually comes from my Excalibur/Aegis Zeta.

    I submitted my weapons before my meeting with Nanamo (but I wasn't searched beforehand...?) so my primary source of strength was taken from me, leaving me vulnerable. I would've liked to be a bit more alert to the act that Nanamo was dying rather than sitting there like a complete nonce - I am technically a sultansworn being a PLD main, and having the sultana die on my watch is very much a kick in the balls. I'd think I'd be a bit more distraught about it.

    I'd submit to Teledji only to play along and gauge the situation; I already know the circumstances are far too convenient, I already know he's a scheming little bastard and I already know I'm innocent. At the same time, risking confrontation only strengthens their case against me.

    Within the Feasting Hall, well, I'm not going to forget being manhandled by Ilberd, so I'm happy to bide my time on that one and kick his face in when all is done. Again, I'm not willing to risk confrontation in front of an audience. I'm still a member of the Twin Adders and I'm not too keen on starting an international incident. I like to think my lack of action is what caused Gridania and Limsa to turn a blind eye to things. I'm certian if I started brandishing my sword around (IF I HAD ONE) like Raubahn they'd likely be forced to be more cooperative with the Ul'dahns at the risk of being accused of harboring a known serial killer on top of everything else.

    Once the audience had disappeared and ran off scared, at that point I would have loved to get in on the action, but at that point Raubahn had pretty much beat me to it. Wouldn't have wanted to get in the way of any of that, particularly when unarmed. I don't really think they were my fights to get involved in either - Raubahn's hatred of the monetarists and Ilberd are personal vendettas, and I get the feeling that he would prefer to settle the score with them himself.

    When escaping, this is where I would've done things differently. Rather than spend a good 5-10 minutes on the Royal Promenade debating our next move, I'd have rather have spent those 5-10 minutes getting the hell out of there. The scions are a diverse group - how that group could fail with a PGL, CNJ, ROG, THM and a PLD when grouped together is beyond me!
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    Last edited by Crysten; 04-03-2015 at 07:18 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

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