Thread: Our passive characters and why the 2.55 story fails (BIG SPOILERS) (rant warning)

Originally Posted by Sushikins

There is a significant difference between killing monsters, Garleans, Primals, Beastmen and corrupt people out in the wild and killing groups of guards in town who to the general populace are just doing their jobs.

Yes. That difference is that Beastmen typically fight to defend their own lands, Garleans are simply people with a different point of view on things. Primals are those that answered a desperate call for help (someone would define that an aspect of a hero).

These are different from the Brass Blades and Crystal Braves. Because the others really just fight to defend their way of living, yet we kill them all mercilessly and think nothing of it.


But when we are to kill Corrupt Brass Blades and corrupt Crystal Braves (for all purposes criminals without remorse), it suddenly puts a bad light on us?
In case you havent noticed, all of them are not doing their job.

You have peculiar values.

Originally Posted by Wobi

I'm honestly still baffled as to why it is so difficult for the many people in this thread to understand the ramifications of their actions had they fought back or taken out some of the Monetarists themselves. Anyone could figure out that this was a losing battle from the start

So because its a losing battle you decide to make the worst choice because it doesnt matter anyway? Ramifications? BS. As others have explained had Lolirito had the WoL and the rest of the scions confined you would have only given him better means to control the situation.


However it was not a losing battle. You simply took the actions that made it one.

Originally Posted by AdamFyi

Without Moenbryda's research, we wouldn't have been able to kill that Ascian.

Thus, we can conclude that the WoL can be compared to Minfilia in terms of powers, but in terms of strength - we're probably just stronger than a lot of people.

I think you might have missed the part where he died and became incorporeal. This happens right after the WoL losses Blessing of Light, ironically.
Which means the WoL had considerable combat prowess even without it.

Originally Posted by silentwindfr

*sighs* you really believe our character alone can face a whole army? seriously?

even in the dragon and primal fight we was never alone! the scion by themself are not as strong as us. indeed they have some flashy movement... but nothing much. other point, our goal is the peace and protection of eorzea.... going around killing eorzean in uldah... is maybe not the best move. without forget, we don't know if all the soldier are part of the plot, some npc talk seems to say the inverse. since they wasn't able to arrest us, they are in a tight spot.... they can't openly arrest us and say: "they have killed Nanamo a few day ago".

seriously the situation as it stand have become a total mess even for the traitor. i'm sure if they had them way we will have been executed swiftly after everybody was arrested. but now that we did flee and alive, they can't really act without create a situation extreme.

**sigh** (<- that is me making an overly exaggerated sound as well)
Do you even know a thing or two about armies and combat, seriously?
You are aware you are on top of a promenade inside of a large city right? You can't just walk an army into a city and have it fight effectively.
It would turn into a pitched battle. Thats because there isnt a lot of space to move an army, let alone have it fight.


In pitched battles the side with the most endurance and the best individual units tends to win.
And hey, would you know that their 'units' happend to be level 35 brass blades and your 'units', highly elite combaters.
As far as endurance goes well, they had a means to escape. Which they used. So endurance would not be an issue.

Actually lorewise you were alone when fighting the primals. (most of them, you had help with leviathan) There were others fighting elsewhere to give you a hand, but you still faced the primals themselves alone.

going around killing eorzean in uldah

According to my achievements I've already killed a few thousand. I don't think a dozen or two-three of corrupt guards serving the one that killed the peoples beloved leader, would really have much of a negative impact.

Originally Posted by silentwindfr

seriously the situation as it stand have become a total mess even for the traitor. i'm sure if they had them way we will have been executed swiftly after everybody was arrested. but now that we did flee and alive, they can't really act without create a situation extreme.

They just killed the original leader of Ul'dah, seized full control over the city and killed or imprisoned nearly all of the scions.
You dont consider that an extreme situation?