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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara View Post
    Hi All,

    Here's one thing I miss from the 1.0 Dev Team's work (and Story / Cinematics Team).

    Look at the climactic battle (before the whole 2.0 / Dalamud / Bahamut ending was created) for 1.0's Main Story.

    Look at HOW ACTIVE AND AWESOME the fighting and challenge was.

    They can fight and kick so much butt, but suddenly, NONE of THEM can do anything against regular Uldahn Soldiers?! So awful.

    Shame on you Yoshi P and the Cinematics Team. Seriously.

    https://youtu.be/iT-52Ia1-3M?list=PL...B9RF0Rj9&t=430

    Thanks.
    The character still just stand around and do nothing (the main complain in this thread, how I see it), while the companion got first shooted.

    Also the last 1.0 mainstory quest never feeled like the end of a story, more like the end of a prologue. Maybe there was more story planned before Tanaka got replaced, but the end was too sudden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    The character still just stand around and do nothing (the main complain in this thread, how I see it), while the companion got first shooted.
    That wasn't the point I was trying to make, it was regarding the OP's *other* point about how the Scions just stood around and did nothing. The whole 2.0 era ending is pretty weak in comparison.

    I agree that 1.0's CS (the one linked) didn't wrap up everything at all, but I was posting that portion to show that at least they are portrayed as putting a fight. Yda, Papalymo, Yshtola, Thancred all being active and fighting back. Not just standing around shocked and letting themselves be "held up" by some average Foot Soldiers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara View Post
    That wasn't the point I was trying to make, it was regarding the OP's *other* point about how the Scions just stood around and did nothing. The whole 2.0 era ending is pretty weak in comparison.

    I agree that 1.0's CS (the one linked) didn't wrap up everything at all, but I was posting that portion to show that at least they are portrayed as putting a fight. Yda, Papalymo, Yshtola, Thancred all being active and fighting back. Not just standing around shocked and letting themselves be "held up" by some average Foot Soldiers.
    There's a difference that I feel should be acknowledged. Animation quality aside, there was no political ramification or blindsiding plots when it came to facing down Gaias.

    That said, would have loved to have seen the Scions in action more than what was done so far.
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    Also regarding the poison scene, I'm just gonna note that

    no one has seen nor been shown the Sultana's corpse, nobody in the room checked for a pulse, and no poison both in-universe and in real life exist that cause you to instantly enter a darth vader chokehold and fall over dead within the same literal second of consumption; at least not one that could be used covertly

    I'm calling playacting on this one, which dramatically changes the context of the scene and what the character could have done


    also, the fact that the main character did not fight back when arrested and 'peacefully' escaped is very likely the only reason why any of the random joe NPC's talking about covering up their presence and keeping quiet about them is happening.
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    video games are bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    Also regarding the poison scene, I'm just gonna note that

    no one has seen nor been shown the Sultana's corpse, nobody in the room checked for a pulse, and no poison both in-universe and in real life exist that cause you to instantly enter a darth vader chokehold and fall over dead within the same literal second of consumption; at least not one that could be used covertly

    I'm calling playacting on this one, which dramatically changes the context of the scene and what the character could have done


    also, the fact that the main character did not fight back when arrested and 'peacefully' escaped is very likely the only reason why any of the random joe NPC's talking about covering up their presence and keeping quiet about them is happening.
    The number of people in on the charade pushes the suspension of disbelief. There are still people after us for them and us to keep quiet for, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    The number of people in on the charade pushes the suspension of disbelief. There are still people after us for them and us to keep quiet for, right?
    Well, only about three of them have to be in on the whole thing. Everyone else can just as easily be fooled or manipulated.

    The same thing goes for the people covering our asses, too - it's a minority of powerful officials making executive decisions, by and large.

    It's also been shown when first met as an Ul'dahn character that the Sultana is very good at slumming it in disguise when she needs to.
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    video games are bad