Thread: Our passive characters and why the 2.55 story fails (BIG SPOILERS) (rant warning)

Originally Posted by Moqi

Thancred surely wasn't overwhelmed when they tried to get to him, he disposed of them and reached us.

Obviously, they only sent a few guards to apprehend him. The WoL is a much higher threat to them so most of their forces would have diluted there. The other Scions were in the banquet hall, so technically they're pretty much trapped.

Originally Posted by AdamFyi

Obviously, they only sent a few guards to apprehend him. The WoL is a much higher threat to them so most of their forces would have diluted there.

Well if I were weaponless me and thus powerless (like folks are saying here), Thancred would have been much more threatening since he did have his weapons with him at the time, wouldn't he?

Originally Posted by Moqi

Well if I were weaponless me and thus powerless (like folks are saying here), Thancred would have been much more threatening since he did have his weapons with him at the time, wouldn't he?

First, Thancred knows the Palace more than the Main character and can evade detection. They likely sent a small contingent after him and he gave them the slip (He even says so.)

WoL, on the other hand, was bereft of their weapons as a standard courtesy of entering the bed chambers of a Sultana. You had no weapon , period. It's not in any of those cutscenes, and you're not going to win hand to hand against that many swords.

As far as those trying to justify taking the spare sword from Raubahn, you're assuming the sword is in anywhere within reach when Crystal Braves and Brass Blades are about to pour in the door.

Keep in mind, level is not related to in-canon skill. Brass Blades are not all skillless sellswords. You also had Crystal Braves, many of them were well trained, as described to you earlier in the cutscenes.

Originally Posted by Moqi

I didn't have it with me so they could justify me being captured.

You are implying that if you had your weapon, you would've fight Teledji and his guards, maybe even kill him, one of the most powerful leader of the Monetarists and all cartels, who is accusing you of regicide.

I'll make it in simple words: you want to attack a leader of Ul'dah while being accused of doing a coup d'etat against said city.

So, firstly, that would be incredibly stupid, for obvious reasons.
Secondly, you character is the Warrior of Light, not Daredevil.

Originally Posted by Fyce

You are implying that if you had your weapon, you would've fight Teledji and his guards, maybe even kill him, one of the most powerful leader of the Monetarists and all cartels, who is accusing you of regicide.

I'll make it in simple words: you want to attack a leader of Ul'dah while being accused of doing a coup d'etat against said city.

So, firstly, that would be incredibly stupid.
Secondly, you character is the Warrior of Light, not Daredevil.

I am implying none of that.

Originally Posted by Moqi

I am implying none of that.

If you don't want to fight anyway, having a weapon or not, being powerful enough to take these guards down or not, it make no difference.

Surrendering was the best choice no matter the circumstances, us having a weapon, the number or guards or whatever.
It doesn't change the outcome in the end.

So, then, what's your point?

Originally Posted by Fyce

If you don't want to fight anyway, having a weapon or not, being powerful enough to take these guards down or not, it make no difference.

Surrendering was the best choice no matter the circumstances, us having a weapon, the number or guards or whatever.
It doesn't change the outcome in the end.

So, then, what's your point?

That doesn't sound like a protagonist that damns the odds and proves an inspiration to many. Suppose raubahn HADN'T lost his temper, would the chopping block have been best too? Or how about a quick knife to the ribs while in gaol?

Originally Posted by Kallera

That doesn't sound like a protagonist that damns the odds and proves an inspiration to many. Suppose raubahn HADN'T lost his temper, would the chopping block have been best too? Or how about a quick knife to the ribs while in prison?

A well planned escape/rescue(gaolbreak) attempt would be better than to die in the heat of battle trying to escape being apprehended. Remember the cost of getting away successfully.