Thread: Our passive characters and why the 2.55 story fails (BIG SPOILERS) (rant warning)

Originally Posted by Velia

- My complaint with the poisoning is exactly that it's too obvious to us. There's such a thing as subtlety in storytelling.

Yeah, you know the poison is there, but the characters do not. It creates suspense. You know there is poison, but you're helplessly sitting down there yelling at Nanamo to not drink it. You'd need to break the fourth wall to even have a chance of stopping her from drinking.

Originally Posted by Velia

- Teledi is an obvious fraud, he's been painted as an obvious fraud for several patches now. If he's reached the point he's openly arresting you there really is no way things could get worse and again I remind you Thancred in the exact same situation chooses to resist.

At the time you were with Nanamo, I don't think you had a weapon with you. Correct me if I'm wrong. I just don't remember seeing a weapon.

Originally Posted by Velia

- Alphinaud is fully aware of Teledi's bribery several cutscenes prior, and was informed of Wilred's death. He has few excuses really.

He was suspicious, yes. But I do not recall Alphinaud being privy to the information given to you at the Rising Stones. Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by Velia

- Ilberd was it? Ilberd just admitted to regicide, and don't tell me they couldn't hear him when everyone else was deathly quiet. Keep in mind all of the Scions had just been accused of treason so who cares about the rules especially since once again Thancred did not.

Notice how everyone left the room - including the Admiral and the Seedseer. Thancred did have a weapon with him which allowed him to retaliate. I don't know if anyone else had any other weapon since it was stated that it was forbidden to draw your weapons in that room.

Originally Posted by Velia

- Easy prey with Ilberd dead and the ringleaders taken care of? I think not. Plus with Raubahn with them they'd have more of a chance.

Not necessarily. Again, reinforcements were pretty close after you ran out of the banquet hall. Ilberd could have stalled for more time and you would eventually be outnumbered.

Originally Posted by Velia

- Okay since we're talking politics, who has more of a reason to cooperate with Ul'dah? Gridania or Limsa, which have already declared they'd put their own interests first, or Ishgard, which now has a vested interest in gaining the support of the Alliance before it falls to a Horde invasion? Yeah. Oops.

I don't think you understand. Finding out another city-state is protecting a fugitive that you would be after would cause huge political problems and conflict between city-states. You'd end up with an all-out war against each other. To add, Ishgard was still in the process of joining the Alliance. They are not members just yet, if I remember correctly.

Anyway, those are my thoughts on the matter. I guess the only thing that irked me was..

During the escape. We can see that Papalymo blasts the gate shut, but why not do it from the other side? I think it was unnecessary for them to even try to stall for time. The gates should have been enough at the least. :U