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    Hyrist's Avatar
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    Lin Celistine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Interesting. It was your insult after all, I merely returned it to you.

    Your question is not a better one. Others have already answered it.
    You misinterpreted the intent of the exasperation. Mine was not directed at any individual, but rather at the tone of the conversation being presented. Yours was a direct insult to my person. Again, argue the point, not the person. My point was to be taken on surface level, not on personal scale.

    And while others have answered my question, you have not. If you are to defer to someone else's opinion on the course of events, then whos?
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    Arias Lightbearer
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    Here's the thing - I'm perfectly ok with the events that transpired. HOWEVER:

    I think the player character should not have been in the room when the Sultana died. I think their conversation should have been over and we should have left. Then she died and we are approached on our way back to the festivities and arrested/vial found on us/etc. That would have saved us from the frustrating lack of player agency we had while she keeled over, especially given the fact that some of us are White Mages and could have just Esuna'd her.
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    If the damage done to nanamo is severe enough, esuna and cure will not work. Hench Type ) opening scene
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    Quote Originally Posted by melflomil View Post
    If the damage done to nanamo is severe enough, esuna and cure will not work. Hench Type ) opening scene
    There is nothing in the lore of FFXIV that supports this.
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    Gumbercules Thesecond
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    I kinda found our character's passive nature fitting to be honest, specially if you keep in mind some of the "jabs" midgarsowm-whats-his-name has been tossing our way since he invited himself to perch on our shoulders ^^; ... and I also agree with our character being a "blank slate" for us to project upon. Maybe im just a wuss but fighting off the whole of the brass blades unarmed, right after the shock of seeing nanamo keel over, I honestly don't know what "I" would do lol.
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    I wouldn't mind more interaction with the characters. Even if the plot remains the same, ultimately I'd like to be able to chose some flavor text and get reactions based off of that. Even if our ultimate actions/choices are uniform, the surface-level personality would be nice to have some control on.

    It would amount to a little more writing in specific instances that the MSC chimes in their opinion, but it would do a world of good in the face of the hurt reactions we've had feeling the lack of it.

    Like the character's reaction to the poisoning. Giving us three to four choices of how to express their shock (worry, anger, dismay, dumbfounded). Then another choice to retort to Teleji would go the world over with me.
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    I wouldn't be too surprised if her body was quickly taken by her supporters and hidden while they try to find a cure. Which might explain why they only have rumors that she's "ill" and can't see any guests.

    I think that the THM and maybe ALC guild are loyal to Nanamo, so they could work with each other and make Nanamo comeback with a vengeance

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    Last edited by myahele; 04-04-2015 at 06:44 AM.

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    This whole discussion reminds me of the ending of mass effect 3, and people trying to explain that ''really! the ending makes sense! it does!''. And they made up all these elaborate theories in an attempt to find some sense where there was none.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    This whole discussion reminds me of the ending of mass effect 3, and people trying to explain that ''really! the ending makes sense! it does!''. And they made up all these elaborate theories in an attempt to find some sense where there was none.
    ...Except in Mass Effect 3's case, it was meant to end the series (or at least, Shepard's story), thus, tying all the loose ends.
    And it was a disaster, even from behind the scenes ("artistic integrity" as they say...yeah, right).

    At least here the story's not supposed to be the end of the entire saga (and carries on into its "sequel", Heavensward).
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus-E View Post
    ...Except in Mass Effect 3's case, it was meant to end the series (or at least, Shepard's story), thus, tying all the loose ends.
    And it was a disaster, even from behind the scenes ("artistic integrity" as they say...yeah, right).

    At least here the story's not supposed to be the end of the entire saga (and carries on into its "sequel", Heavensward).
    Well... we really shouldn't draw comparisons with other games, especially single-player ones. If anyone wants to pipe in and spoil some other MMORPG's go right ahead, I'll spoil the ones I've played through more than one update.

    Mabinogi - Korean Freemium game. Each "chapter" kinda throws away everything that happened in the previous one. This is because of the nature of Korean businesses that basically reward feature-creep, not quality. Seriously, the first 3 generations, and then they introduce new races... and completely fail to connect it to the games lore at all until Generation 8. Then they retcon these several generations later (G16). Like, as much as I enjoyed the first 3 generations, each subsequent storyline seems very forced. For example G9-12 goes back to the actual lore in G1-3, and then in G13 they try really hard to force Shakespere into it all... uh okay. I think the overall story was okay but it seems like the producer's at Nexon just stopped caring at G13 and the fanbase revolted from the attempt to turn it into yet-another-WoW. Every patch changes the land and glued-to-the-ground NPC's.

    I played Wizardy Online and PSO2 but in hindesight, these hub-dungeon games have little actual overall storyline.

    So in terms of if FFXIV:ARR's mainstream ending is any good, it's probably on par with other MMORPG's needing reasons for you to come back, but if FFXIV wants to be better than any other MMORPG, Yoshi-P needs to have the next three expansions in the writing stage already so we don't see retcons and backpeddling like what happened in V1.0, and what happens in freemium MMORPGS. Yoshi-P had to "solve" the problems with V1.0 first, a game that was essentially broken and aimless copypasta. With V3.0 if the companions never re-appear, I'll probably be disappointed, but I do want some closure. The game has already made a point of going "nobody is ever permanently dead", just look at Hildebrand.
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    Last edited by KisaiTenshi; 04-04-2015 at 04:30 PM.

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